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Original poster

to take my baby to hospital tonight

85 replies

monkeyandlion2012 · 15/06/2016 19:14

He'd had breathing problems since birth ( chest retractions/grunting/blue spells and nose flareing. ) and today he's been sleeping lots and poor feeding on top of his usual problems..the hospital says to take him up he's blue no blue speeds today fortunately so aibu

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RunnerOnTheRun · 15/06/2016 19:46

My DD was a grunter and was in special care. They DO take it seriously. Get them to check blood sugar levels too. Very important if not feeding as usual!

Cleo1303 · 15/06/2016 19:47

Please take him to hospital. Please. It's never worth taking the slightest risk with such a young baby.

Northernlurker · 15/06/2016 19:50

I think people need to cut the OP a bit of slack. It sounds like she's been seeking a diagnosis for her baby and not really felt like she's got anywhere. The advice she's apparently been given to seek help if he's blue doesn't help her out knowing what to do today and she's posting here for some advice and support.

OP - forget about the other problems for a minute. What you're looking at is a baby who is sleeping too much and not feeding. Even if he'd been a picture of health from birth, those two things alone would be enough to justify and require you to seek medical help. You're not overreacting. Take the baby to hospital and see how it goes.

Lynnm63 · 15/06/2016 19:51

Take him to hospital OP. You know your own baby. My ds2 wasn't feeding and was not suite himself. His twin was still in SCBU at that time. I took him to hospital and duty doc said he's fine, go home basically you're being neurotic mum. I said he's not, fetch me a paediatrician. Just then my dd doc walked through A&E recognised me and gave ds the once over. Long story short ds had viral meningitis.
Mums know this stuff instinctively.

meddie · 15/06/2016 19:52

Please push for an echo of his heart preferably by a paediatric cardiologist who is trained in interpreting the results. Hopefully its not this, but it needs to be ruled out at the very least.

RoryGilmore · 15/06/2016 19:53

Please count respiration rate, it sounds like it will be high.

He's got sternal recession (the pulling in under the ribs) and nasal flaring. These are signs of respiratory distress.

DS had all of this. No temp, and until he was finally admitted (after 3 hospital visits in a month, where it was dismissed as bronchiolitis) , his milk intake was normal as well, but the drop in feeding was a big red flag. It turned out that he had a collapsed lung!

Don't want to scare you, but please don't ignore what I've said. Whatever route you take (and it's 999 if resp rate over 60), then you need to take him to hospital. Now.

NicknameUsed · 15/06/2016 19:54

Has your baby had an endoscopy to check his airway?

DD had a lot of breathing problems when she was tiny and I understand how you feel. He needs to be in hospital and he needs his airway checking out.

NorahM · 15/06/2016 19:55

Hi OP, just curious if laryngomalacia has been mentioned (my almost 8-month-old baby has it)?

Northernlurker · 15/06/2016 19:55

Has he had a cardiac echo by the way? I've looked at your earlier threads and you mention an ECG but not echo.

RoryGilmore · 15/06/2016 19:56

"OP - forget about the other problems for a minute. What you're looking at is a baby who is sleeping too much and not feeding. Even if he'd been a picture of health from birth, those two things alone would be enough to justify and require you to seek medical help. You're not overreacting. Take the baby to hospital and see how it goes."

^^Good advice there

YeOldMa · 15/06/2016 19:57

Rory's advice is very good advice. Do it and then you'll know what to do. If it is less serious you will know at least to call 111.

NicknameUsed · 15/06/2016 19:58

I was wondering about that Norah. DD had airway issues and threads like this make me so cross when there is obvious medical incompetence.

RoryGilmore · 15/06/2016 20:04

Thank you. Been there and done it with DS. We too had the breathing problems from birth, health visitors who said he was fine, lots of GPs that told me it was a chest infection, dismissive consultants, etc.

Was a careful GP at out of hours who checked a couple of other things, and we were blue lighted into hospital. He's fine now, but if we'd waited...

EllsTeeth · 15/06/2016 20:09

What Norah and Nickname said. This sounds like my youngest and he had laryngomalacia. It wasn't until I took him to a private ENT paediatrician that we got a diagnosis. It is allegedly fairly common but several health professionals appeared not to consider it. My son was pretty textbook. He is now 2 and has grown out of it but it was very scarey for a while. Of course it may not be that but worth mentioning to your son's doctor.

nocoolnamesleft · 15/06/2016 20:14

Feeding going off in a baby that may have an undiagnosed underlying problem affecting breathing (or even heart)?

Back to hospital, now. Okay, yes, they may decide to start feeding the minute you go through the doors. It happens. But on the other hand feeding is the hardest work a small baby does, so it can be a sign that things are going pear shaped.

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RedToothBrush · 15/06/2016 20:16

Paramedic told me in back of an ambulance ANY breathing difficulties; 999 do not pass go straight to hospital.

Don't doubt it. Babies can go down quickly, and they would rather do 10 calls for non serious cases for the one that's not. Its one thing they NEVER consider a 'waste of time/resources'.

They do not need to be blue. Just struggling to breathe.

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monkeyandlion2012 · 15/06/2016 20:18

Floppy larynx has been ruled out with a baruim swallow but after pushing from me he's due to been seen at ent next week see the thing with him is its all very intermittent just now he's breathing fine he's also had a bottle. some time tonight it will start again then I'd take him am also going call 999 or 111 for an ambulance so they can see it so he stop by the time where there then can say they seen it

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AugustaFinkNottle · 15/06/2016 20:19

Can you film him when he's blue and struggling to breathe? It could be useful for the hospital to see that.

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monkeyandlion2012 · 15/06/2016 20:21

Am watching him just now and all the replys are makeing me upset cos it should be taken more serious but it's not

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RoryGilmore · 15/06/2016 20:22

You could video him next time he's bad.

Does he get worse after a feed by any chance?

notamummy10 · 15/06/2016 20:25

Why don't you go to A&E to be on the safe side, even if there isn't anything wrong it's better to be safe than sorry! Flowers x

BBQsAreSooooOverrated · 15/06/2016 20:25

Poor little thing. Yes get him seen, hopefully you'll get some answers.

LardLizard · 15/06/2016 20:33

Don't want to scare you but it sounds like a potential heart problem to me

Your child needs an echocardiogram, where they will use ultrasound to check if the heart is normal

Fingers crossed
Get to a and e tonight and kick off till you get this sorted

Best wishes to you

yougotitdude · 15/06/2016 20:33

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