Clement Freud accused of paedophilia

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When will the whole filthy, rotten, depraved house of cards finally be disassembled and exposed for what it really is?

thank you hackmum and mrs - honestly the holier-than-thou-ness on this forum is sometimes un-fucking-believable.

Why is the McCann thing even relevant?

1. The wife may not have had a lot of power to stop what was going on - some women (look at many MN threads) are held in power, controlled - see the new criminal offence of coercive control just coming into force).
2. Secondly a child you are looking after who comes into your bed which is not that unusual - or not in those days - first thing in the morning like many small children do - does not mean the wife knew what might go on.
3. So I think we should leave the wife out of it.
4. I doubt the lady has made this up and there is far too much of it about and gosh it is not just something men in power do. It's men at all levels - it's on your local council estate, it's the stepfather in your home, it's your uncle. It is something that sadly goes across all walks of life.
5. The McCann's daughter was kidnapped (and probably killed). That is dreadful and has nothing to do with this.

Why is the McCann thing even relevant? hmm

I assumed it was a weird joke, but who knows. I really hope it was a joke because otherwise words fail me.

I thought her statement read as dignified, she believed the women but I didn't read it that she knew.

Has anybody been convicted of anything yet?

Well no, he's dead.

Of course not Zippy.

baboon yy. Maybe their statements have confirmed her suspicions.

It did sound like she wasn't all that surprised, but to say that she was involved is going too far.

IF she was unaware of her husband's perversion, she would not have felt it unusual to leave the girl in bed with him. They were looking after her as a favour to her parents and Jill could perhaps have given it no more thought than having one of their own children in bed with them?

I don't know, of course I don't. Just a thought.

the girl was 14 at the time.

I took her statement to mean that she was aware. I don't know though, obviously.

Of course it's horrible to think that a wife would leave a 14 year old girl in bed with her husband knowing that the girl was likely to be abused. But worse things have happened. None of us know and won't unless his widow is questioned.

I despair.
She remembered a particularly disturbing incident from when she was 14, when the couple asked her to join them in bed.
Mrs Freud left the room to make breakfast and her husband sexually assaulted her, she said.

Of course not Zippy.

So is it wise to be speculating about a crime which hasn't been proven to have been committed yet? Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

It is rare to meet a female who hasn't been abused in some way, at least in my experience.

really?

I wonder what they meant by abuse bluecarpet as it's a wide definition. If dilly meant child abuse then I would love to see some figures on that because it can't be true.

What he did was horrific these men are always protected by somebody the power behind these men is astounding why are they always protected

A 40yr old woman and a 16yrold boy isnt right is it imagine if it was your son i do think there is more to her apology and aknowledgement

bluecarpet
I thought that too. I've never been abused, I don't think I'm a rarity.

In my perfectly ordinary comprehensive school in the 1970/80s there were a number of staff who were abusers. Some were charged and found guilty, others got away with it, including my own peripatetic music teacher. I don't think it's that rare, there wasn't really a word for it back then. We called our music teacher a dirty old man but we didn't report him.

IF she was unaware of her husband's perversion, she would not have felt it unusual to leave the girl in bed with him. They were looking after her as a favour to her parents and Jill could perhaps have given it no more thought than having one of their own children in bed with them?

Bibbity Just NO to all you said above.

No.

A 40yr old woman and a 16yrold boy isnt right is it imagine if it was your son i do think there is more to her apology and aknowledgement
Yes MrsJ And imagine the outrage on here if the sexes were reversed.

Yip a 16yr old girl and a 40odd yr old man the outrage would be outstanding

... and imagine the outrage on here if they weren't rich upper class professionals too!

Nobody knows if his wife knew of his perversions but if it were me I'd be horrified and outraged if anyone accused my DH of this. The apology seemed like she accepted what he was, like it wasn't a huge surprise.