To have refused weight management programme?

[29ismyluckynumber]

My G.P. asked me if I would like to be referred to a weight management programme, and I said no - largely because I didn't know what it involved, and I doubt I'd be able to stick to it.

I'm wondering if I was a bit hasty. does anyone know what it involves?

I know, but I'm not sure Slimming World will help either.

As the wise Yoda said 'Do or Do Not, there is no Try'.

Clearly you don't actually WANT to lose the weight and if you start something without the will to see it through then it won't work so YANBU as as a pp said, resources will be better spent on someone who wants to lose it. When you actually want to lose weight or stop the binge eating, then go back to the GP and ask for help.

Have you tried keeping only minimal food in the house? I don't mean to sound patronising but my OH has had to ask me to stop keeping certain things in - I'm generally quite restrained but if it's there he will eat it and unsurprisingly gain weight.

You have 2 choices. Accept help and see how it works for you or carry on as you are probably putting on more weight. I think you were bu to refuse help without even asking what it involves.

You need to get out of the negative mindset. Everything you have said is how you won't get help, that there isn't any help even though it has been offered.

Fwiw, I have always been a binge eater and then restricting and over exercising. I have tried every diet going to try and get a quick fix. I used to spend days off spending hours doing cardio and eating very little. The weight came off but it wasn't sustainable. I have binged, eaten and eaten until I feel sick. I didn't even want the food but I ate it anyway.

Now, I am still overweight BUT I have got myself a personal trainer. I see her twice a week and we do a little cardio but lots of weights. I eat what calories she tells me, I exercise 5 times a week using programmes she has set for me. I now know what food is best to keep me full. I haven't had a full on binge since I started. I have had a couple of minor slip ups but nothing major. That won't stop overnight.

So either take he help or accept your life may never change.

I don't think it will, to be honest. I sometimes have hopes it might be different, but it won't be. And I know that's because I'm useless, I'm not blaming anybody other than me, but it's just how it is.

Exercise makes me so hungry it's counter productive as I just start troughing everything in sight.

I could have written that bumbling. I lose weight, gain it again, go to the gym, stop going - it's a vicious circle. I'm around 2st over the top end of my healthy weight but I just can't seem to motivate myself.

OP YABU to refuse without finding out what the programme involved but YANBU if you say no once you have all the facts. I was offered 'help' a few years ago but it turned out that the GP wanted to put me on diet pills so I refused. Had it been WW or SW I would have given it a go.

Bumbling I'm so grateful for your post.

It's so hard to get others to understand. I'm terrified of the doctor and will put up with huge amonts of discomfort before I go.

Come and join us in boot camp, you won't be hungry following a low carb, high fat diet, very effective.

It's not hunger, if it was, I could deal with it. I would join you but you'd hate me because I would keep failing. Plus I am veggie!

Because it's emotional!! Binge eating is a coping mechanism and it's NOT about just calories. But you can be referred for therapy through the NHS. Therapy can help you find and respond to triggers for emotional eating.

That in the long term is the only way to overcome it! Please don't give up.

OP - have you ever explored why you binge eat? You are right, you dont need slimming world you need counselling and support.

I know talking about whats actually wrong is terrifying but your GP will only be able to help if they actually know whats wrong. have you told anyone about your binge eating?

I'm trying the mm 800 cal blood sugar diet 29

Your history sounds like mine & got 4 stone to lose too. Also veggie. I would say don't give up, even after many failures, to give up is to have no hope.

I would say yes to the group also, being weighed weekly by someone might hold you accountable also

I am sorry you find yourself in this predicament.
You sound so down at heart and so sad.

Would looking at some sort of mindfulness or positive thinking approach help, or other ways of dealing with a depressed attitude help?

Hope you find a way of addressing this, I do empathise, it's horrid when you feel incapable of dealing with issues around food as we HAVE to eat to sustain our lives.

I know about nutrition but I binge eat, and can put away a week's worth of calories in one sitting.

In that case, I'd recommend psychotherapy. Find out what you lack in your life that you try to replace by food, that sort of thing.
Do you think you would be as terrified of a therapist as you'd be of the doctor?

I would have recommended low carb as I've seen people have spectacular success with it, but if you're vegetarian, that's rather expensive. Perhaps try the psychology route first.

I know why I binge eat.

I just don't think I can stop, I'm sorry.

My SIL was about 4 stone overweight and was referred to an NHS programme.
It had 3 elements to it. She saw a dietician to talk about food choices and learn more about what she should and shouldn't eat. Even though she knew about food, she learned about things like protein keeping you full up for longer

She also saw a psychologist to talk about the triggers for her overeating, and what she could do to not overeat. A lot of it was related to quite deep-seated things, so she talked through it a lot. She also talked about her lack of motivation for exercise.

And the 3rd part was exercise. She was assigned a personal trainer who gave her a programme and did the first few sessions with her, and then provided support by phone and email. I think she had a few top up sessions with him as well

She lost the weight in a year, going from a size 18 to a size 10. A year on from reaching her target weight, she is still a size 10 and said feels like a changed person. She has also been given a 'what to do if you feel like you are slipping' guide to get her back on track if she starts putting weight back on.

You need to eat more of the right foods. Over processing in modern foods causes triggering in the brain which makes us crave and eat more.

Try simply cooking from scratch as much as possible and eating fruit after exercising. Small steps will make a big difference.

You sound exactly like me op.

To me binge eating is as strong as an addiction. I've gotten to the point where I can't see a way out but I have very young dc's who I am desperately trying to keep from going down the same road. I need to do something because day to day life is becoming unbearable but I have failed so many times!

I hope things get better for you op.

29ismyluckynumber

Why do you binge eat?

I think I just have to try to be honest with the children and explain to them I have ruined my life because of the bad choices I've made and urge them not to do the same.

I had one and went, it was in a church hall with tables me you sat down with someone (mine was overweight herself which didn't give me much hope!) and they literally said what any idiot knows, eat more fruit and veg, exercise more, avoid carbs. Well duh! Was a waste of time! Never went back...

I binge eat because of stuff from childhood, but it's definitely an addiction. I eat one bit of food and can't stop.

My doctor set me up with a "health trainer" who has so far cancelled 2 of the 3 appointments that I tried to make. I had my first session 2 weeks ago I was supposed to keep a diary and then see her again this coming Friday.... She's cancelled that session to now.... So for now I'm just waiting and seeing what happens at my next appointment

OP you need professional support and advice. You cant do this alone and you shouldnt have to. You are unwell, not a failure. This isnt a character flaw or a weakness, you arent incapable of sticking to things, you are clearly suffering and need help. I think the bingeating is almost irrelevant, its how you are coping with distress and that is what you need help with.

I'm in the Us and my doctor is very into weight management. Post baby I had my annual check up and my fat arse was handed to me on a plate. My diet is being recorded using my fitness pal and I gave my doctor access. I've had full blood work done because she is very sure that I have a problem with anemia. She also thought I might have a thyroid problem as its so common after having a baby.

So I totally understand why you don't want to do weight management. However you need to do something about your binge eating because you are clearly affected by events and circumstances from your childhood. Right now those issues are showing up in your weight but I would bet they are also affecting other aspects of your life too.