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Neighbour problems - renovating. AIBU?

101 replies

FunkyChunk · 12/06/2016 21:25

I would really like some opinions on whether IABU, after an incident today I'm really shaken up and upset.

We bought our first home in March, a complete doer-upper as its all we could afford. It needed gutting, new electrics, plumbing, boiler, staircase you name it.
Our next door neighbours moved in the day after we got our keys, they are renting the other half of our semi-detached.

In the first couple of days, we were working in the house in the evening (around 7pm) when neighbour (lets call him A) knocked and asked us to not work later than 7 as his son goes to bed at 7.30. Fair enough, and we packed up - haven't worked past 5/6pm again.
Looking back now, its a little strange that he knocked as we were only stripping wallpaper (not noisy at all). He also didn't introduce himself or anything, was right into complaining. I was the one who actually stopped him and said "oh, nice to meet you by the way, what's your name?" Etc.

We have had noisy work done since, as is to be expected. We've told neighbours about what we are doing and are apologising every time we see them! DP and I are mostly doing all the work ourselves which means the weekends. We don't do evenings considering the noise we can make at times.
Our other neighbours are lovely, very much "don't worry, do what you need to do" even going as far as offering their drive for us to put a skip on!

Now, A is starting to come around EVERY time we work. Every time we have accommodated his requests as I think we are considerate and would like to keep things friendly. We've previously packed up at 3.30 (after only starting at 12) because he was having family around for dinner, for example.

A couple of weeks ago he collared me while alone in the garden and made me feel so uncomfortable I went inside and cried. Complaining along the lines of "we only have weekends here too, we've had enough" etc.

Today it came to a head. We started to work around 11.30. We realise its Sunday and people would like a lie-in (including us!) so we start late.
DP was screwing plasterboard to the ceiling in the living room. It wasn't actually that loud at all, as it was cushioned by the existing plasterboard and DP has a specific quieter drill that he can use. Its heavy and uncomfortable to use but he does to try and keep the peace! I wouldn't say it was louder than a TV being on.

We had only been going for 20 minutes when A FLEW to the front door and started shouting and swearing.
"I WAS IN BED AT 11.30 AND I CAN HEAR YOU START AGAIN! MY ONLY DAY OFF AND I DON'T GET A LIE IN! YOU'RE SO INCONSIDERATE, YOU'RE TAKING THE PISS!" etc.

He wouldn't let us speak, just swore and shouted and left. I've been feeling sick to the stomach all day.
We've really tried to bend over backwards to be considerate:
Not starting work until 10.30/11 at the earliest.
Packing up by 5ish and no evenings.
Keeping people informed.
We've even gone to the expense of adding thick, insulated plasterboard on each of the party walls to try and soundproof for them.

We haven't actually worked every single weekend. There have been days or even full weekends when we haven't been there at all.

I honestly don't know what more we can do, I'm absolutely gutted about today and don't want to go back really. Sad

Do you think we are BU? What would/have people done in our situation?

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7DaysAWeekWorker · 13/06/2016 14:31

Don't be jealous because I work 7 days and can afford 2 houses aged 30 :P

7DaysAWeekWorker · 13/06/2016 14:33

Btw if I was that ignorant I wouldn't have worked harder at school to earn £60k a year would I?

7DaysAWeekWorker · 13/06/2016 14:33

Btw that is £60k net, ignorant enough for ya?

MumOnACornishFarm · 13/06/2016 14:37

Christ, has this thread really descended to such depths? Throwing about details of salaries? That's unpleasant.

FunkyChunk · 13/06/2016 14:42
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LuckySantangelo1 · 13/06/2016 14:52

I have mixed feelings about this one. I used to work in property management and this type of dispute would come up a lot. While you are entitled to renovate your home your neighbours are also entitled to quiet enjoyment of their property, which is perhaps being compromised by your building works.

He certainly shouldn't of shouted & sworn at you.

If I was advising your neighbour I would tell them to contact the council and ask them to provide noise monitoring equipment. If I was advising you I'd say to try and get a dialogue going with your neighbour about what they would find acceptable. Every weekend really isn't on.

As for 7daysaweekworker; what a pleasant and gracious person you seem to be. I agree with the poster who called you ignorant.

letthefundusbegin · 13/06/2016 15:01

Our neighbours moved in and spent the first month doing building work etc. before they physically moved in. It was noisy and their builder did do work in the evenings and weekends and did sometimes have to be asked to move their vans etc from blocking our driveway......

BUT

We now live next to a house which looks heaps better than before and has real kerb appeal which makes the street look better iyswim. Plus it's nice to live next to people who have 'invested' in their homes and so have continued to take really good care of the property etc. I definitely took the view that it was a temporary thing and they weren't setting up a permanent building site so really wasn't worth getting upset or shouty about it.

7DaysAWeekWorker · 13/06/2016 15:20

Fair enough luckysantangelo. You will be where you will be and I will be where I am. Can't please everyone.

People who pay rent should and do have rights, the op is clearly being very considerate but this Jackass seems to be sleeping all day long and throws a hissy fit when op wants to do diy. Imo perhaps the "Jackass" is better off not sleeping and working more so he can buy/rent a detached.

SilverBirchWithout · 13/06/2016 17:11

7DaysAWeekWorker do us all a favour and get back to work!

Kariana · 13/06/2016 18:08

Don't be jealous because I work 7 days and can afford 2 houses aged 30

I don't usually respond to inflammatory comments like this one but I just can't get my head around why anyone would think a 7 day working week is something to be jealous of. I'm quite happy to work 5 days a week and afford my one house thanks, I'd consider working 7 days a week to afford a 'spare' house a terrible waste of my life!

TheAnswerIsYes · 13/06/2016 18:53

Ha 7DaysAWeekWorker I only work 2 days a week and have 5 properties. Perhaps if you had studied better you could have got a better job and had a life.

user1465829033 · 13/06/2016 19:01

Call the police about his dog, and the next time he has a party! Play him at his own game. Or if you want a less stressful strategy, ignore it, ignore him and get on with what you are doing when you want to do it. Don't answer the door to him.

Chris1234567890 · 13/06/2016 19:06

Back on topic Halo perhaps referring him to your DH would be a better tactic at this stage. If he appears at the door, say nothing apart from I'll go get DH. If he collars you in the garden, I'll go get DH. Completely block any conversation with him.

How DH deals with him is another issue, but I can guarantee the approach will be different. Absolutely take yourself out of this dispute. He wants to play big boys, give him a big boy to play with. He's clearly collaring you........the wuss.

MumOnACornishFarm · 13/06/2016 19:08

Great point Kariana! I work 0 days per week (well, I'm a SAHM, but people will get what I mean) and I have 1 house, and am very content with that.
Although it's just occurred to me that maybe 7Days actually means she/he can afford to buy two houses after working only seven days. Come on 7Days, reveal yourself, are you actually Warren Buffet?

Georgina1975 · 13/06/2016 19:13

But please don't waste police time about barking dogs!

IthinkIamsinking · 13/06/2016 19:21

Smile nicely, tell him to make a complaint through the proper channels then close the door on him and ignore ignore ignore

mummymeister · 13/06/2016 19:38

When I was working as an eho we permitted audible building work between 8am - 6pm Monday to Friday, 8am - 1pm on Saturday and not at all on sunday except if the job could only be done on that day for very specific reasons (like moving in a huge crane). so if you do noisy work between these hours then I cant see any need to complain.

the key phrase in this is audible building work so that includes banging hammering scraping etc.

Kariana · 13/06/2016 20:09

Grin MumOnACornishFarm now only 7 days would be something I could understand boasting about.

BeckerLleytonNever · 13/06/2016 20:29

Look at your local council website and look up DIY noise and permitted hours.

Really. Doi t.

mine says NO WORKS on a sunday, 4 hours MAX on a Saturday.

its a bloody nuisance to be making noise on a weekend. its some peoples only time off and they want to relax.

at least you let them know though.

mummymeister · 13/06/2016 20:44

"letting them know" does not stop something being classed as a statutory nuisance.

if your neighbour wants to pursue this with the local council then they could restrict noise work to Saturday mornings and not at all on sundays.

whilst I have a lot of sympathy for you renovating your home why should your constraints have an adverse impact on your neighbour.

if you are painting walls or doing the plumbing fair enough but more noise than this and you risk it being a statutory nuisance if it is outside the times I outlined in my first post.

NewLife4Me · 13/06/2016 22:14

2 houses at 30 is nothing to be proud of, do you actually own them both? Neither is working 7 days a week, that's a mug's game. Grin

I work 0 days a week and have 2 houses, paid for, soon to be three.
Trump you 7days

JoffreyBaratheon · 14/06/2016 01:35

YANBU, OP.

In fact you have done your best to accomodate this neighbour.

I'd do that and no more. Even if they complained to Environmental Health, they wouldn't get very far.

sollyfromsurrey · 25/11/2018 14:00

Next time he approaches you aggressively, tell him you are logging every incident and what he is doing constitutes harassment

Do this. And point out to him that the more he delays things, the longer it will take. You will not be quitting your renovations so he either accepts that there will be some noise and allows it to be done or he continues dragging this whole thing out. No court in the world will back him on this. But yes, log everything. Times you start and finish. The type of work being done on the occasions he flies into a rage..

sollyfromsurrey · 25/11/2018 14:01

Oops, just seen this is an old thread!! SO, how did it pan out?