I don't like children in 1st class airport lounges!

[Sunnsoo]

Just that really....

A lot of airport lounges let people bring a kid in for free if the parent has a pass/1st class ticket.

I have a Loungekey because I have anxiety and need to relax/clear my head before flying.

However, I have noticed a sharp increase in the amount of kids in these lounges recently... Running around, picking at the buffet, spilling fizzy drinks... I find it stressful to watch!

AIBU to think that if you take your kid into a quiet/luxury area, then you make them be quiet and behave?!?

When I've paid extra for my ticket to ensure a good night's sleep, I'd gladly murder these parents.

and you think that parents don't deserve luxury or sleep???? DFOD and hire a private plane next time.

If you mean you don't like noisy, ill behaved DCs in the lounge then YANBU, but that's not what you said. I'd rather have a few quiet DCs in there any day than some of the loudly braying entitled business folk I sometimes see.

I remember when DS was a baby and both of us were BA gold class through work travel so we brought him into the lounge. Tried to find a quiet corner so as not to disturb folk, one guy looked at us as if we had placed a turd on the coffee table. Meanwhile DS was perfectly quiet and still.

DS did kick off once in an airport terminal - was totally our own fault, he was a toddler, overtired and we'd let him have two Fruit shoots that day as had forgotten we had one in the bag when going through screening so he was allowed to drink it. He had a total meltdown on the ground - we didn't ignore it though and tried to contain him. Thankfully we were in cattle class that day as we would have left if in the lounge.

Paul love that.

Parents elect to be deprived of sleep by virtue of their lifechoice; the other passengers don't.

As for "DFOD": evidently your employers pay for your tickets.

YANBU.

When I was a kid we lived overseas for Dad's work; employer flew us first class. We dressed nicely and were expected to be quiet and respectful in the lounge and on aircraft. Reading, quiet talking OK. Running around, loud voices, helping selves to buffer etc would have been unheard of! Our parents would've nipped that in the bud in a nanosecond.

Now the parental attitude is "don't like it? Tough shit!" I see. When did decorum and consideration for others in public spaces fall by the wayside? Why are children not being taught self-restraint and respect for other people? Or even, for that matter, awareness that others actually exist! Most seem oblivious to that basic fact for starters.

MildlyattractiveBetty "little shits"

You sound really charming. How great you must feel about yourself, to speak about another human being with such venom and bile

OP I bet the problem is not kiddies picking on buffets, I bet you want them stand still on a chair and say nothing!!!!
That's not how it goes! You seem too entitled, people like you are the reason parents are too scared to take DCs anywhere
I second the diazepam comment
YAVVVU

W8 - plenty of children in business class when we travel.
We usually fly with Cathay out of HK and my children are certainly not the only ones in Business.
I have found most children to be pretty well behaved - some of the adults can be pretty obnoxious though.

LilacInn your second paragraph may be the most sensible thing I've ever read on Mumsnet.

APPLAUSE ICON PLEASE

We sat still on a chair. It's not impossible if the parents have done a competent job civilizing the children.

YANBU to want the Lounge to be a quiet place away from the hustle and bustle of the airport.

Lounges that allow kids in should have an adults only zone and a kids area with things that will actually entertain them and stop them from disrupting everyone else.

LilacInn I can't sit still in a chair for an hour why should my 20mo? What's wrong with my 4yo going to the window and being excited about seeing the planes take off?

Tough titties.

First class lounge?

Has anyone said, "Oh my God, Oranges!!" yet?

I do feel good about myself, thanks lazyjournalist

What irritates me is when my kids get criticised for behaving in exactly the same way as the adults around them. For example, talking at a reasonable volume. Why are adults allowed to have a conversation but my kids get glared at for daring to open their mouth.

And a child can only go in the first class lounge with a first class ticket generally. If the parent has a gold card they can only take the child into the business lounge. (For ba anyway)

Obviously YABU to think you're entitled not to be faced with parts of the population you don't like when you go into an area where they're allowed to be just as much as you are. Other people are not responsible for your decision to manage your anxiety in a way that relies on you not encountering people in a certain age band. If you're in somewhere advertised and sold specifically as a quiet space then by all means complain and seek to have it enforced. Otherwise, suck it up princess.

YANBU to get annoyed at screeching, running around etc. From older children, that is, very small ones simply cannot be made to be quiet on demand and you are not entitled to be shielded from them because you don't like that irritating and indisputable fact. Older ones, absolutely. Although you might want to think carefully about whether you'd actually benefit from them sitting quietly rather than expending a load of energy before boarding a small metal flying cabin for a lengthy period.

I don't like being surrounded by small and/or loud children when I am not at work. Otherwise, it's just like being at work.

However, I have children, procreation is necessary to keep the human race going, >99% of them are lovely and so I suck it up. I suggest you do the same, or sit by the departure gate and at least the resentment for having paid to sit in first class and still finding yourself surrounded by other people will dissipate.

I fly very frequently, usually first or business. My 3 children are often with me. They are well behaved, though one as a baby did scream once when we were waiting to board. She settled immediately as we sat down and i got my boob out and slept for 8 hours and then played quietly the entire way to a Singapore.

still chuckling at the notion of first class lounges at Newcastle.

BTW i believe pressurised cabins physically intensify our emotions too. So irritation can become RAGE.

I also have anxiety but it's not the rest of the world's responsibility to manage it.

I am in BA lounges at least 4 times a month, and I have to say it is a rare rare thing for kids to be running around. My kids are in the lounge because we have paid for their tickets. That doesn't mean they are entitled to be a nuisance to everyone else though. However, when I have paid up to £3k for each ticket, including my children, then yes, they are absolutely entitled to use the same facilities as everyone else.

It sounds like you don't like children. Do you have any?

My older children would be perfectly behaved on long flights. The toddlers - I'm not so sure.....overall they are great but there will be moments!

People who say their young children are perfectly behaved at all times despite long journeys, stuck in confined spaces, tired, hungry, bored. Have you drugged them ?

OP - learn to enjoy watching children playing. Honestly- it's lovely!

Otherwise, sit out with the cattle class. Put your headphones on and close your eyes.

The last time I was in a lounge, there was an entire rugby team in. There was also rugby on the tv.

If you think kids are disruptive, you haven't experienced that.

And you know what?

It didn't bother me. Because they had as much right to be there as I did. They weren't rude, they were just exuberant. And that made me smile because actually, you don't see happy excited faces much on travellers - we adults could learn from the kids.