Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be unimpressed with schools idea for forgetting P.E kit.

101 replies

RequestInUse · 08/06/2016 22:29

My DS who is 9 didnt have his P.E kit in school Monday as I forgot it, not thinking it a problem though as they don't do P.E on Mondays.

However, this Monday, they decided to do sports day practice and as DS didn't have his P.E kit (he lost it in school the week before half term but that's another story, but it must be in school somewhere!) they told him to borrow another boys.

The other boy was on holiday and has been fairly good friends with DS but they are very different builds, DS being stocky and the other boy slim. But I don't think it's ok for the school to tell him to borrow someone else's kit. I wouldn't want someone else borrowing DS's kit, possibly damaging it or whatever.

AIBU? What happend to having to use kit from lost property/spare kit box?

OP posts:
roundaboutthetown · 09/06/2016 09:01

You should never be "compassionate" with other peoples' possessions.

roundaboutthetown · 09/06/2016 09:01

(People's)

ItGoesWithoutSaying · 09/06/2016 09:02

Like Eatshit and others, remember being made to do PE in my pants if kit was forgotten. 1980s.

Imagine what would happen if a school had that policy now? I predict condemnation, sad-face Daily Mail articles, and teacher-suspensions.

roundaboutthetown · 09/06/2016 09:03

Green pants and a vest were our primary school PE kit.

FarAwayHills · 09/06/2016 09:11

Pretty simple No Kit = No PE

They can can participate in other ways by keeping score, or writing something about the lesson, perhaps an essay on the importance of PEGrin

Send a note home to remind parents re PE kit. It will become pretty clear if repeat offenders are PE Dodgers and perhaps a quick word with parents could help resolve this.

fortifiedwithtea · 09/06/2016 09:17

DD2 with learning disabilities in year 8 forgot her P.E. kit on Monday too. No excuse it was packed waiting for her by the front door.

She rang her older sister (who can drive and is on study leave doing her A levels) with a rather entitled demand for the kit to be brought to school. My eldest wasn't pleased and gave her a right earful but still did it as the alternative would have been use P.E department spares and I wasn't having DD2 in potentially manky trainers. I'd rather she got a detention and sit on the sidelines than borrow kit.

OP YANBU I wouldn't want my DC kit used by others in their absence.

ItGoesWithoutSaying · 09/06/2016 09:45

FarAwayHills: Pretty simple No Kit = No PE

This would have provided a great incentive for me to "forget" my PE kit every single time.

hewl · 09/06/2016 09:49

If you forgot to send the kit in, you should be grateful the school sorted the problem, wash the kit and send it back with a smile.

HelloHola · 09/06/2016 10:05

Just about to read through responses now but..

When in infant school, if you forgot your kit you just had to do it in vest and pants.

When in seniors, the school had a box of spare PE kits for people who had forgotten their kit - I knew that I was too fat large to fit into any of the kit provided, so it worked in my favour and got me out of PE.

tinyterrors · 09/06/2016 10:09

Op is getting a hard time for not sending her child's pe kit when it wasn't even the usual pe day. If it was the usual pe day then fair enough but no one can be expected to know the teacher will randomly decide to do pe on a different day.

I wouldn't be happy with someone else wearing my child's pe kit or with my child wearing someone else's. Apart from possibly damaging someone else's kit one of my dcs is allergic to certain washing powders and fabric softeners so would come up in an itchy rash if they wore clothes washed with these.

Aside from that our school have a bank of spare kit, they ask parents to donate kit that's been grown out of, so it shouldn't be an issue of having to borrow someone else's kit. School shouldn't have to provide spare kit but equally they shouldn't be telling children to use someone else's kit either.

steppemum · 09/06/2016 10:23

Schwabischeweihnachtskanne
that would have been my ds, now year 8 and size 12 feet. I gave up buying daps in year 4, as large size daps don't work1

YANBU OP, what I don't get though is this was sports day practice, not gym.
Most boys school shoes are pretty much like trainers at primary level anyway, why not just do it in uniform? They run around in the playground, so now they run in a straight line for pe?

Gileswithachainsaw · 09/06/2016 11:01

compassion doesn't mean you agree to wear some other kids sweaty smoky smelly pe kit. or lending a kid yours and having to wear it after mom

I draw the line there

I'm sorry for the kids who don't have parents who wash their clothes or bathe their kids but I don't want my kid wearing their clothes sorry. nor do I want to exchange staph or fungal infections by dd lending hers out.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 09/06/2016 11:31

I'd rather she got a detention and sit on the sidelines than borrow kit.

This against a background [particularly for girls] of declining exercise levels and rising childhood obesity.
Wearing disgusting stuff from lost property is a perfect incentive in my book for 2nd level children even if you do have to delouse your children later.

In my old school if you forgot your kit you were tasked with choosing from lost property OR scrubbing out all the playground bins under a cold water tap without marigolds or washing up liquid. Someone was once sent to clean up the front lawn after a cow got loose from the convent farm and left droppings everywhere.
Got to hand it to the nuns. They weren't much into sport but they had some genius ways to incentivise a teen.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 09/06/2016 11:32

Handing out kit from a missing child who has taken it into school is unacceptable though so YANBU OP.

WhyCantIuseTheNameIWant · 09/06/2016 11:51

I wonder if these two sentences are connected. ..

They sent him off to borrow someone else's kit

And

His kit has gone missing.
(Possibly borrowed by another child and not returned?)

Schwabischeweihnachtskanne · 09/06/2016 12:12

No PE kit really should mean do it in uniform because the borrow somebody else's rule leads to the kids who do have their kit borrowed without permission (or with enforced permission) having pieces lost/ not returned/ dropped and left on the cloakroom floor or otherwise mucked up.

Wearing other people's shoes is worse than wearing uniform shoes or bare feet if inside, especially if they are not the right size.

Kids do sweat - my 9 year old always has sweated profusely when doing sports, and it seems to be genetic as DH says he was the same. DS1 is "full power" as they say here about everything and before school/breaktime/after school/ weekend etc. football is 100% effort, focus and energy as is school PE as is all the other sport he does - he trains with his football team twice a week for 1.5 hours each time and on two other evenings with the age group above as he was invited to and the more sport he does, the calmer he is (he can behave quite strangely if he hasn't had enough chance to run off energy that day) - he also does martial arts twice a week and would like to do more but it is logistically impossible. He is therefore incredibly fit for his age - he can run laps of the football pitch and just keep going, around and around and around and around, does endless sit ups in the middle of the living room floor for no reason except it stops him fidgeting and bouncing about on the sofa while watching TV, and swept the floor at sports day winning every race, his first year, so competed with the year above last summer and still won most events. He is definitely not overweight or unfit but he sweats absolute buckets - at the end of 1.5 hours of football training he looks as if he's been in the shower with his clothes on (aside from the fact he is also red faced and inevitably muddy...)

londonmummy1966 · 09/06/2016 12:36

This may be OK at primary school but secondary school PE teachers live o a different planet to the rest of us when it comes to deciding what regulation PE kit is. SO my dds both have a kit list with 15 items on. All with the school logo on (even swimming cap and socks). The track suit they wear only to get to and from the playing fields cost £60 because it has a fancy stripe and logo on. Girls without kit spend the lesson doing grotty tasks in the PE cupboard and then go back for a lunchtime detention so they don't like missing PE. This means that the older girls see year 7 PE kit as fair game (they still have a complete kit) and go in and help themselves/borrow it and "forget to return it". Once you have shelled out £150 to replace part (not all) of your dcs' missing PE kit you won't think it is reasonable that other children borrow it.

Now my dds' PE kit is named on the front with inch wide name tapes so no one borrows theirs any more - best £5 I ever spent....

fortifiedwithtea · 09/06/2016 12:46

ThreadSoftlyOnMyDreamsI'd rather she got a detention and sit on the sidelines than borrow kit.

This against a background [particularly for girls] of declining exercise levels and rising childhood obesity.

You don't know how far from the truth that statement is with regards to my daughter. She is actually an exceptional figure skater and trains many hours a week despite having learning difficulties. I'm not going to risk her damaging her feet or catching anything from trainers belonging to someone else.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 09/06/2016 14:02

fortifiedwithtea
Yes but you did not qualify your statement with "My DD is a high performing athlete .....I'd rather she got a detention and sit on the sidelines than borrow kit due to the risk of injury or infection."

Your daughter is an exceptional circumstance, your statement implied that you'd rather she sat out any form of school exercise than wear someone else's whiffy kit which is imo a bit precious for the vast majority of children/teens?

RequestInUse · 09/06/2016 15:28

WhyCantIUseTheName this had crossed my mind...

Also we're a 'hot' family so would hate to think the kit he borrowed got bit grim. Not that I'm sure whether to say anything to his mum...

Also if hate for kids, being kids, to tell the other boy my DS borrowed his kit and got annoyed or said he looked funny as it don't for or what ever and get laughed at etc.

And yes the risk of fungal infections, etc is gross.

OP posts:
nooka · 09/06/2016 16:10

HangingRockPicnic yes in primary I don't recall ever being asked to send either child in in different clothes. They had PE every day. Very few children wore skirts or dresses, virtually all of them wore shorts in the summer and jeans in the winter. Trainers all year round. Didn't seem to cause any particular issues.

In secondary school they are supposed to bring in a shirt and shorts during the semester when they have PE every day. dd always did, and ds frequently didn't (just stripped down a few layers). They both did PE regardless and ds wasn't particularly smelly that I noticed. PE is compulsory up to year 10 here, but they split the classes into different streams so the kids that are serious about their sport are separated from those going through the motions (last year dd got to do a class that was more about exercise, with yoga and Pilates type activities)

Fairenuff · 09/06/2016 17:30

If the children don't learn now they are in for a shock at secondary school. They will have to wear unwashed, unlabelled lost property for the PE lesson and will also get detention for not having their kit.

Gileswithachainsaw · 09/06/2016 17:33

hardly fair though nuff if the reason their kit is missing was cos someone else "borrowed" it..

Fairenuff · 09/06/2016 17:37

In secondary school the staff don't try and sort things out for the children, they are expected to do that for themselves so if they lend their kit and don't get it back, it would still be seen as their responsibility.

Gileswithachainsaw · 09/06/2016 17:42

right so someone tries to be nice and some thieves g twat refuses to give it back it's the givers fault?

unfair