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AIBU to be incredibly bothered by neighbours complaint?

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user1465383488 · 08/06/2016 12:37

We have lived in our house very happily for the last thirteen years. For the last five years we have been living next to very fussy neighbours. A couple in their thirties,No kids,no pets ,she does yoga in her garden,bakes from home and cycles around in an old fashioned big wheeled bike with a basket full of fresh bread and flowers.He works all day and seems very quiet. A perfect couple I guess.
We have six children here aged between 8 months and 13 years. The eldest two have special needs (autism /mobility problems)
We've always been super aware of not making noise to annoy anyone . The kids with the SN are in the furthest side of the house so occasional meltdowns have at least four or five walls between them and the neighbours.
Problems started three years ago when she knocked to say one of our dogs barked when I left her to do the school run and disturbed their breakfast . I was apologetic and took steps to stop that..training,plug ins,radio, recorded her etc and it stopped.
Then a few months later she hung out of her window on two mornings shouting at us for closing our gate too loud at 8.45am waking her up as she..and I quote " goes to bed late and has every right to sleep in with her windows wide open and not be disturbed" .
She made my then 8 year old cry and the kids creep out paranoid every morning to the car not daring to even speak.
Then we were putting a small patch of decking down and using a small battery drill to screw the planks in at 6 pm on a Saturday.She pops her head over asking if we could stop as they wanted to have dinner in the garden . And we did 😐
Next week she pops over again asking if we could keep our voices down as she was reading when it was just me,hubby and the two eldest out on the patio planting flowers.
Since then I've been paranoid. I dont let the kids play outside before 10 am or after 6.30 ish. If they're stupidly noisy they get brought in,I took the trampoline down because the neighbour moaned.We don't ever play music, the youngest kids are all in bed before 8 and the big three are quiet then and there's never any noise overnight. I don't ever open our bedroom window incase the baby cries through the night as the neighbours Window next to our room is wide open.
I stand out with the dogs in the morning and night so they don't bark and during the day if they start barking they're called in.When I go out they're in the far side of the house .
I "thought" we were being pretty considerate.
Apparently not.
Last weekend whilst the kids were in the paddling pool playing and actually being pretty quiet tbh both of them flew to the fence and started screaming about how we were ruining their lives, she sits crying at the noise we make. We have no consideration and should be ashamed of ourselves as parents etc. They went completely nuts and I told them we did our best but they didn't believe me, hubby at this point stood up and told them to back off as our kids were watching.
Since then my autistic son hasn't slept, he won't go outside. I am paranoid beyond belief. I won't even let the kids go into the two rooms on the neighbours side in the morning and am making them eat their breakfast in a different room 😐 I'm constantly shhhhhhing and trying to stop my 3 and 4 year olds running around all day and I can't face even letting the little ones play or my dogs outside. I'm even getting hubby to leave work to do the school runs whenever I can so I don't have to leave the dogs incase they bark.
It's causing great stress with me and hubby who thinks we should just ignore them and carry on our lives as we were. He is furious I'm so bothered what they think . I really don't know what to do !

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FireTruckOhFireTruck · 17/06/2016 18:09

Yes definitely keep a log for environmental health, it will help.

Figmentofmyimagination · 17/06/2016 18:12

They sound ghastly. Good idea to raise the fence though, assuming it's yours. How much better for you if you can't see them and they can't see you when outside! In the meantime start growing something tall and fast growing along the fence eg bamboo.

MariaSklodowska · 17/06/2016 18:15

they do sound ghastly dont they - OP has done such a great job of describing them, I can just imagine their straw hats and vintage bicycles and organic veg boxes I bet.

bigsnugglebunny · 17/06/2016 18:21

We had a very similar problem. We were recorded. We weren't told what days they were recording, just that it would be carried out in the "next month" (This was back in 2013)

Our neighbour did the knocking in retaliation thing, and I was very concerned that she would do that during the recording to pretend it was us.

Apparently though, the recording equipment is set up in a way that can't be moved/tampered with along with directional microphones. It also continually records, and re-records over the recording - so that when the complainant presses the record button (when they think there are noises) it actually saves the previous minute or so too, so that it can catch out anyone planning to make noise to try and tamper with it.

Obviously this was the equipment and policy of our local authority - I can't say that they all follow the same protocol - but I know that we had been recorded because she complained to our landlord the following week about the noise, he rang the council who said that they had completed the recordings and had found no noise nuisance.

Your neighbours banging deliberately would be classed as a nuisance, and it wouldn't matter what time of day it was (even before 11pm) if it becomes distressing to you. Ours was doing it at 7/8am as petty revenge for all the noise we weren't making! She was warned by the council, which didn't go down well.

Without wanting to clog up your thread with our issues, it was very similar and targeted bullying of our (at the time) 7 year old autistic son.

We stuck it out, never spoke to her again and actually only moved out last summer because a nicer, less damp and more secure property came up!

user1465383488 · 17/06/2016 19:22

maria they really honestly are like that! Hubby walked out in three quarter length white linen shorts, black ankle socks , brown open toed sandals....and a long sleeved shirt,skinny tie,silver shades and straw hat today!!!
And I'm not joking! Mrs straw hat has bought a new cross trainer and set it up in the room adjoining our living room. All I can hear is swoosh swoooooooosh swooooooosh.
Will see if they bang tonight.

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user1465383488 · 17/06/2016 19:23

figment Yep it's our fence. We had the guy here who quoted and then never turned up to actually do the job 😡 So now have to find someone else

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user1465383488 · 17/06/2016 19:32

bigsnugglebunny sounds awful 😟 Glad it's sorted now x

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user1465383488 · 17/06/2016 21:58

Ohhhhh! Early banging!
Sat here with everyone asleep ,feeding baby and watching footie with hubby and eldest son.Not loud, no shouting. Nothing!
And they banged!!! What the actual fuck!?

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TipBoov · 17/06/2016 22:51

Try not to let it get to you - easier said than done I know.

I lived in a semi when DD1 was born, and it really upset me when the next door neighbour banged on the wall because she woke up in the night. He was always banging around and his alarm woke me up early every morning but I never complained, so some give and take would have been nice Angry

WhoTheFuckIsSimon · 17/06/2016 22:56

I would go round tomrrow and ask them very politely why they are banging. Smile sweetly and tell them there's no need for it.

Point out that you can also hear noise (cross trainer) from their house so it's to be expected in a semi that that's some noise. Point out people were asleep when they banged so you know the only reason they're doing it is to harass you and be nasty. Smile all the time, don't raise your voice.

user1465383488 · 17/06/2016 23:15

I just took the dogs out and walked out to mr straw hat exchanging words over his fence with a man three gardens away ...straw hat was complaining about the very very very noisy party next to far away neighbour. This is the house who have parties till 1/2 am every fri and sat all summer . My next door neighbours denied hearing them when I pointed out others around us were noisy, seems they can hear them now 🙄

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user1465383488 · 17/06/2016 23:16

whothefuck I'm not sure I can hold my temper and stay calm 😟

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StrictlyMumDancing · 17/06/2016 23:31

I think at this point its probably best you ask environmental health on Monday what to do. Don't go round or you'll get a but you were doing x,y,z and more response which will throw you more. They may get bored in a few days anyway.

IceBeing · 17/06/2016 23:33

I would record the banging and the effect its having on your family....just in case this is them trying to provoke noise....

BoatyMcBoat · 17/06/2016 23:37

So glad you're living more normally now. They are beyond arseholiance really, aren't they?

Yes, contact EH on Monday and get advice. I hope there are many more parties down the road to disturb them all summer. With luck they'll move.

scarlets · 18/06/2016 00:12

When you described the bike I knew she was going to be a twat. I didn't need to read more. Yanbu full stop.

hellsbellsmelons · 18/06/2016 08:21

I'd be banging back.
Or sending Dh round to tell them to stop banging as everyone is asleep.
I'd be getting angry now as well.
Give them something to bang about tonight!!!

Clutterbugsmum · 18/06/2016 09:43

Don't bang on the wall they are trying to provoke a reaction from you.

I suspect they have spoken to either a solicitor and/or a the council and have been told that your 'noise' is normal, so they are now trying 'to prove' that you are noisy.

Carry on as normal, be mindful of what your neighbours are doing.

Adnerb95 · 18/06/2016 10:28

I would write a polite, but firm, note saying " we are now aware that we have been artificially restricting normal family life, in response to your various unreasonable complaints. This will no longer happen. We operate very responsible limits in terms of hours and levels of noise and these are well within Local authority guidelines.
We have every intention of continuing to live here and so if you are unable to live with the normal, happy sounds of family life, we suggest you consider a move to a detached property with no surrounding properties. That way you - and we - will be a lot happier.
If, however you choose to stay, please be aware that banging on the wall loudly late in the evening regularly and for no apparent reason can be considered harassment and if you continue to do this, we will have no hesitation in logging these incidents and will report it to the relevant authorities. Kind regards, OP and family"

user1465383488 · 18/06/2016 12:58

Thankyou all. Am logging all their banging ,inc what we were doing at the time.
We had a parcel delivered for the unattached house with new neighbours to the side of the straw hats and they came to collect it this morning. When he thanked us for taking it Hubby casually mentioned next door and the guy rolled his eyes. Seems they've fallen out already after next door knocked complaining they'd parked their car in "mr straw hats" spot the first week they moved in. Public road, no reserved spots and we each have our own drive ways..🙄

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minifingerz · 18/06/2016 13:16

They should think themselves lucky they don't live next door to me. My children play piano, trumpet, saxophone, and have a large acoustic drum kit. My middle one does his piano practice at 7am. My youngest does his trumpet practice at 9pm. We have no carpets downstairs, and no curtains in the music room. 12 foot high ceilings. The acoustics are great! if you like trumpet noises which make your ears bleed

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minifingerz · 18/06/2016 13:18

Would add, my neighbours are also a childless, young couple, with a perfect lifestyle. They sent a bottle of wine over with an apology for the noise they'd made having friends round. We hadn't even noticed. When I apologised for my children's noisy music making they said not to worry, that they 'enjoyed a bit of culture'! I love my neighbours!

niknok69 · 18/06/2016 13:26

Same as Pudcat, keep a record of her complaints.
Tell your kids you made a mistake at telling them to be quiet and they can now resume NORMAL children's behaviour. You sound too nice, I would have told her to shove it if it were me!
When the stupid bitch says anything again, smile sweetly and ignore, she is intimidating you and your children and that is against the law! hence keeping a record. Good luck hun xxx

MintyChops · 18/06/2016 14:37

They are a pair of twats and that unnecessary banging on the wall would infuriate me. Could you record the baby crying at some point and then play it LOUDLY on a loop when next they bang?

TroysMammy · 18/06/2016 15:26

Could they be recording themselves banging and pretending it's coming from your family in order to file a complaint against you?

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