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AIBU to be incredibly bothered by neighbours complaint?

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user1465383488 · 08/06/2016 12:37

We have lived in our house very happily for the last thirteen years. For the last five years we have been living next to very fussy neighbours. A couple in their thirties,No kids,no pets ,she does yoga in her garden,bakes from home and cycles around in an old fashioned big wheeled bike with a basket full of fresh bread and flowers.He works all day and seems very quiet. A perfect couple I guess.
We have six children here aged between 8 months and 13 years. The eldest two have special needs (autism /mobility problems)
We've always been super aware of not making noise to annoy anyone . The kids with the SN are in the furthest side of the house so occasional meltdowns have at least four or five walls between them and the neighbours.
Problems started three years ago when she knocked to say one of our dogs barked when I left her to do the school run and disturbed their breakfast . I was apologetic and took steps to stop that..training,plug ins,radio, recorded her etc and it stopped.
Then a few months later she hung out of her window on two mornings shouting at us for closing our gate too loud at 8.45am waking her up as she..and I quote " goes to bed late and has every right to sleep in with her windows wide open and not be disturbed" .
She made my then 8 year old cry and the kids creep out paranoid every morning to the car not daring to even speak.
Then we were putting a small patch of decking down and using a small battery drill to screw the planks in at 6 pm on a Saturday.She pops her head over asking if we could stop as they wanted to have dinner in the garden . And we did 😐
Next week she pops over again asking if we could keep our voices down as she was reading when it was just me,hubby and the two eldest out on the patio planting flowers.
Since then I've been paranoid. I dont let the kids play outside before 10 am or after 6.30 ish. If they're stupidly noisy they get brought in,I took the trampoline down because the neighbour moaned.We don't ever play music, the youngest kids are all in bed before 8 and the big three are quiet then and there's never any noise overnight. I don't ever open our bedroom window incase the baby cries through the night as the neighbours Window next to our room is wide open.
I stand out with the dogs in the morning and night so they don't bark and during the day if they start barking they're called in.When I go out they're in the far side of the house .
I "thought" we were being pretty considerate.
Apparently not.
Last weekend whilst the kids were in the paddling pool playing and actually being pretty quiet tbh both of them flew to the fence and started screaming about how we were ruining their lives, she sits crying at the noise we make. We have no consideration and should be ashamed of ourselves as parents etc. They went completely nuts and I told them we did our best but they didn't believe me, hubby at this point stood up and told them to back off as our kids were watching.
Since then my autistic son hasn't slept, he won't go outside. I am paranoid beyond belief. I won't even let the kids go into the two rooms on the neighbours side in the morning and am making them eat their breakfast in a different room 😐 I'm constantly shhhhhhing and trying to stop my 3 and 4 year olds running around all day and I can't face even letting the little ones play or my dogs outside. I'm even getting hubby to leave work to do the school runs whenever I can so I don't have to leave the dogs incase they bark.
It's causing great stress with me and hubby who thinks we should just ignore them and carry on our lives as we were. He is furious I'm so bothered what they think . I really don't know what to do !

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DancingGoose · 12/06/2016 23:43

I had awful neighbours too, and ended up creeping around my place terrified to make a noise..even cringing if I dropped something in case they heard and made a fuss!

I also tried to accommodate them but got sick of it, so began to live normally and they moved THANK GOD. I couldn't believe how relaxed I felt after they went - bliss! The stress levels this stuff creates is not to be underestimated!

FuckingMother · 12/06/2016 23:58

Check out the local environmental council pages about domestic sound limits. Ensure you don't break them and ignore her stupid and ridiculous demands. I would even consider having a solicitors letter sent - I think she is harassing you. It is outrageous your kids, particularly the ones with SN are anxious and scared. Mine have SN and the anxiety can make all our lives miserable and is very hard to manage. I would be livid if I had such an unreasonable neighbour.
Honestly, I have good relationships with our neighbours and think they are very important but she is crazy with her demands and I don't think she will ever be happy with your behaviour.

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FuckingMother · 13/06/2016 00:00

Sorry if thread moved on and I have said something irrelevant. I was so outraged by your post I replied without realising there were 500+ replies already!

mistlethrush · 13/06/2016 00:29

I live in a semi which sounds much like yours.... On Friday morning I heard next door having timing issues (unusual) on the school run. I didn't complain about the noise, I sent her a sympathetic note on FB! You need to be able to lead your own life, within reason. Noise-wise, I think 11pm to 6am should be the time when you try to keep the noise down. Then 6am - 8am and 9pm- 11pm ideally try to keep noise levels 'moderate'. Outside those hours, as long as your dog isn't barking constantly I really don't think that you need to do more.

user1465383488 · 17/06/2016 16:00

Sorry to resurrect the thread, just wanted opinions .
So we've been really monitoring the noise in the house incase we were being unrealistic , spoken to the kids and explained what is acceptable ,told them to play as they like just not to scream loads etc
Recorded the dogs when out..no barking. And spoken to the council who assured us normal family noise is fine.
Heard nothing from the next door neighbours, both of us have been in and out of our gardens with no bother.
We've stuck to our usual routine of not letting the kids out early /late and not letting the dogs bark .
Anyway last four nights the neighbours have decided to bang on the walls ..six times. Hard bangs and always at 10.55 pm.
It's completely bizarre! First night thought nothing of it,second night odd,third even more odd. Then Last night everyone was asleep and had been for hours ,hubby and I were sat in the front room with the baby and the tv on low and the dogs snoozing. And bang,bang,bang,bang,bang,bang.
Woke the baby,startled the dogs and one barked .
Why the heck would they be doing that? 😐

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IAmNotAMindReader · 17/06/2016 16:04

They're doing it because they're now assuming any noise whether from their own house or elsewhere is coming from your property.
Or they've decided to disrupt your lives every time your house goes quiet as a kind of revenge.

WindPowerRanger · 17/06/2016 16:05

Hmn. It may be that they are angry you've resumed normal life and this is their way of getting their own back.

But actually, I doubt it's that rational. For some reason they need drama in their lives and have settled on confrontation with you and your family as the means to provide it.

I think I would ignore it for now. If they continue or escalate either ask them outright what they are trying to achieve or just complain to police.

SquinkiesRule · 17/06/2016 16:08

I'd keep a log of times/dates and what they are doing.
Maybe they are trying to bait you into challenging them.

Janecc · 17/06/2016 16:09

To wake you up maybe? They're just going to bed. Your kids/animals disturb them so they'll disturb your family. Very passive aggressive and immature.

Can you change the babies room around so theyre away from the wall?

Tbh if this continues, I would think about telling them if they want war, that's fine. You have restrained your family between X hours out of consideration for them, and if they continue to disturb your family, you will let your dogs bark and children scream at all hours as well. But that could be a dangerous route. Idiots.

expatinscotland · 17/06/2016 16:09

Ignore it. Don't engage with these fuckers at all.

Palomb · 17/06/2016 16:09

Maybe it's a really shit but very punctual attempt at sex?

StrictlyMumDancing · 17/06/2016 16:11

Our neighbour did that often at 3am, except she did own up to doing it. She claimed it was in retaliation to the banging and drilling we were doing, which we weren't of course unless one of us was sleepwalking then tidying up bloody well.

We later discovered she had a brain tumour. Whether the noises she 'heard' were a side effect of this I don't know although she did also have some mental health problems which were more likely the cause.

It does sounds like your neighbour has a real problem with noise at all, and my first though would lean to retaliating to imaginary noises.

It also could be that they're trying to monitor the noise coming from your house so purposely causing a disruption. Keep a log of when this is happening and if it continues go to environmental health yourselves.

user1465383488 · 17/06/2016 16:16

We've resumed normal life as such but I'm still being very careful that they aren't disturbed at all till past 9am and even then it's only the two littlest boys playing or one or two barks if the post comes. Absolutely nothing bad and def no noise after 7.30/ 8pm.
Now I'm not constantly telling the kids to shhh they're actually being quieter !
It really is just a completely weird thing to be doing.

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user1465383488 · 17/06/2016 16:18

palomb that's what I said to hubby 😂
Maybe it's them OCD shagging

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user1465383488 · 17/06/2016 16:19

strictly I did wonder that. If they're banging just before 11 to get some noise out of our house that they're recording? Hmm

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hellsbellsmelons · 17/06/2016 16:19

Yeah!
It's a start but you don't have to have complete silence after 8pm.
There is no way they go to bed that early.
Especially if you were told off about the gate going well past 8am and she wanted sleep!
I hope the kids are having more fun now and I hope you are more relaxed about everything and not stressing???

HSMMaCM · 17/06/2016 16:25

If you keep a diary showing times ie

8pm children and dogs in bed asleep
1055pm neighbours bang on wall waking baby and dog

Etc

Then when they hit you with the noise complaint you can show its their fault.

StrictlyMumDancing · 17/06/2016 16:26

It wouldn't be official noise recording, for some reason I can never fathom Environmental Health are meant to inform you its happening. Also you'd have had written complaints from them before it gets to that level too.

I remember asking our lot if monitoring would be able to pick up if we were the originators of the noises or if she banged a lot but monitors were in her house the noise would be put down to us. They seemed relatively certain they could distinguish, but I wasn't overly convinced.

We never got to monitor stage as she never went through Environmental Health, but she did give the PCSOs copies of her noise logs against us. They showed us a snippet randomly though and some of the late night drilling was taking place at the time I was giving birth to DD so neither of us were there.

MariaSklodowska · 17/06/2016 16:31

Keep a diary of everything OP, and resume normal family life.

user1465383488 · 17/06/2016 16:35

Really?! They have to let you know they're recording? How's that work then? Surely everyone is just quiet then 😕

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jollygoose · 17/06/2016 16:43

I agree with almost everyone that YANBU however you own your house not rent it from council or housing association so there is absolutely nothing they can do anyway.

StrictlyMumDancing · 17/06/2016 16:44

Its a massive issue a lot of genuine people with noise complaints have. The offender (if they're clever enough, some aren't or just aren't capable of containing themselves) go quiet for the period of recording then revert back shortly after. Many councils now try to go round and witness the noise for themselves, but again offenders seem to be aware and often go quiet for a short while. It must be horrific for people who genuinely go through it, which makes me so mad at people who make complaints over general living noise or make shit up.

user1465383488 · 17/06/2016 16:53

Ok so scrap that Theory then , they're not recording .
Must just be them being annoying, like I'm certain the grandfather clock is just to piss us off too.

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YorkshireLass2012 · 17/06/2016 17:21

OP, I agree with previous comments. Definitely keep a log of any incidents. If the banging is loud enough to wake your baby and is regular at past 10pm, I think you have the option of taking matters up with the council. I am glad that you have resumed normal life and are more relaxed. You are entitled to enjoyment of your home! I hope it all sorts itself out sooner than later for you and as amicably as possible.
If you wanted to be a bit naughty, pop adverts for properties for sale in their letter box! 🙊😉That is a joke!! 😱

Groovee · 17/06/2016 17:51

I would log it and if it continues make your own complaint to environmental health if they continue it.

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