To DESPISE people who intentionally park in m&b spaces!!!!!

[Carys62]

Today I was trying to park my car with my 2 young children outside the supermarket but couldn't get a baby space. I then saw a woman get out of her car from a mum and baby space WITH NO CHILD! She just parked, got out all alone and strolled into the supermarket with a smug look on her face . (OK there was no smug look I just made that part up but I just imagined her smugness) Whilst I huffed and puffed across the whole car park with an unruly 4 yr old and baby in buggy!!!!! IT INFURIATES ME !

[PurpleRainDiamondsandPearls]

I do love it when people say "I don't park in P&C space without children and I don't park in disabled spaces without a disabled badge" as if they are the same thing. Oh, how I laugh.

[PurpleDaisies]

Agree with purple. First post on a controversial subject is often a troll. That's why people check these things.

I wish p and c spaces were rebadged as accessible spaces so people with problems getting into and out of cars could use them (my mum). I don't park in them but was told off by a very angry woman once for parking in the first non-p and c space. She really shouted at me and would not see that I'd parked in a normal space next to a line of p and c spaces. I told her to go and report me. Surprisingly, nothing happened.

[Numberoneisgone]

I do love it when people say "I don't park in P&C space without children and I don't park in disabled spaces without a disabled badge" as if they are the same thing. Oh, how I laugh

Absolutely

[tigeymctigerface]

susanandbinkyrideforth generally speaking they're not legally enforceable the way disabled parks are... which brings me onto something more important. If your SPD flares or is painful while you're walking, why not apply for a disabled parking permit?

Then you can get really angry at all the entitled healthy parents who take disabled parking spaces!

[ExtraHotLatteToGo]

Why do you need a P&C space with a 4yo?

[PurpleDaisies]

If your SPD flares or is painful while you're walking, why not apply for a disabled parking permit?

Blue badges are really difficult to come by.

[HarrietSchulenberg]

I parked in a P&C space yesterday as they were the only spaces in the entire (half empty) car park that were in the shade. I had the dog with me and he's not allowed in Home Bargains so has to stay in the car.
Shoot me.

[PurpleDaisies]

Then you can get really angry at all the entitled healthy parents who take disabled parking spaces!

Do parents actually do this?

[PurpleDaisies]

Posted too soon. I've seen people admit to parking in p and c spaces without kids but parking in a disabled space without a blue badge is a whole other ball game. That's totally out of order.

[AdjustableWench]

I like what Gentleness said.

When my kids were small I usually had a word with people who were parking in P&C spaces without any children in sight, especially if I'd had to park in a regular minuscule space. I was always very polite. On two occasions the people I spoke to threatened to punch me (one was a man and when I challenged his sexism he said he'd get his girlfriend to punch me instead!).

So I'm not hugely surprised at some of the comments I see on these threads on MN about how everyone managed just fine in previous centuries and how P&C spaces should be at least a mile from the supermarket entrance and how parents these days are just so entitled.

A bit more kindness would be a good thing.

[Onlyicanclean10]

Mumsnet poster since 2008!

Yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn and yawn

[Sellingyesterdaysnews]

Supermarkets have courtesy spaces..it's not the law either disabled or parent and child.

[umizoomi]

I never said that P&C spaces and disabled spaces are the same thing purple. But fundamentally both are there to make life easier for those who need a bigger space/space closer to the door. As I don't need this, I wouldn't use the space so piss off with your 'ooh singeing thinks they are the same' comments.

I wouldn't use the space regardless of laws or whatever else because I appreciate that I don't need it

[umizoomi]

'someone thinks they are the same'

Sorry stupid autocorrect!

[DecaffCoffeeAndRollupsPlease]

Fair enough Alisvolatpropiis, I just don't remember them. The parking for the Morrisons I used back then was council owned and pay and display, so maybe that's why?

[sharknad0]

Why do you need a P&C space with a 4yo?

because they will struggle to climb in the car and into their car seat on their own (at least in some cars). You can strap them from inside the car, but they need to be carried to go in the seat in the first place.

[RonaldMcDonald]

God. Mother and baby spaces should be banned or put at the back of supermarkets
To stop the whining

[kawliga]

Whilst I huffed and puffed across the whole car park with an unruly 4 yr old and baby in buggy!!!!! IT INFURIATES ME !

You poor thing. You had to walk across an entire car park with your own unruly children! Oh, the humanity. This should never be allowed to happen. As if mothers do not suffer enough, now society expects them to walk across a few yards with their children. Huffing and puffing. The person who made you do this horrific walk should be shot. I hope your dc are ok after all that trauma.

[Alisvolatpropiis]

I'm not sure to be honest Decaff, I only remember them being about because my mum used them when my younger sibling (8 year age gap) was a baby in the mid 90's. Think they might have been quite a new thing then though and so probably not as widespread as they are now.

[fanjoforthemammaries7850]

Loads of people park in disabled spaces with no badge, whoever asked. Especislly to go to the gym.They just wait until evening when the traffic wardens are off duty, here. Makes it hard to go out with DD in evening.

As for the OP it's fair enough she is mildly irked at people's lack of consideration.

[ThroughThickAndThin01]

Yanbu for saying "my bad". I love that phrase!

Everything else, well, a little annoying but not worth a thread.

[Devilishpyjamas]

I don't remember ever using these spaces, not sure if they just weren't around then (16 years ago)?

They were just starting to be introduced then. Little did they know what monster they had unleashed. Rather than making life easier they just seem to send parents of pre-schoolers into a rage.

Someone on here did admit to keying a car displaying a blue badge parked in a P&T space. That's the level of entitled insanity these spaces drive some to.

[Sparklingbrook]

We need a 'P&C Parking' topic. Maybe it could be under 'Fun and Games'.

[thecatsarecrazy]

I was at an aldi the other day and a car was parked across 3 bike spaces, right under the sign.

[wavingnow]

Rant away, get it off your chest. Please stop encouraging the view that women can't cope. I know with car seats and busier car parks than ever it's not easy, but it can be done.