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To not want Office to tell me I need to shave my legs?

337 replies

AliceInWonderland3 · 05/06/2016 21:41

I got an email this week from Office trying to sell me summer shoes, the email also told me not to forget to shave my legs.

AIBU to not want a business who wants female customers telling them they need to shave their legs? I shave my legs because I know people I encounter day-to-day will be horrified by body hair on a woman, but I don't need a business trying to make me feel bad if I choose to go outside without doing so. Or trying to make me feel disgusted by something natural Angry

OP posts:
marblestatue · 05/06/2016 22:37

YANBU

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 05/06/2016 22:39

It makes it okay, because. It's nothing personal.
How far do we draw the line so as not to offend people. Which some people thrive on. If I'm totally honest.
Stop commercials advertising deodorant ect as its telling women to make sure their Pitts smell nice, and if a women wants sweaty pitts. That's her porogative.
Don't advertise weight loss commercials which lets be honest. Is predominantly aimed at women. I mean when do you see a man on there, After all. It's her body. If a women doesn't want to lose weight. It's up to her.

grumpysquash3 · 05/06/2016 22:42

I honestly expected your post to be about Microsoft Office and thought you were going to say that it had set up automatic reminders on Outlook for the leg shaving.
That might actually be useful! Plus you could delete it.

ChicRock · 05/06/2016 22:44

Vote with your feet.

foursillybeans · 05/06/2016 22:48

YANBU. More perfect body marketing. Angry

Peyia · 05/06/2016 22:59

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost

The marketing is unrelated to the product. Shoes and hairy legs?

The examples you give are related so I wouldn't be offended in seeing an ad show a woman/man perspire and then be seen using a new and improved antiperspirant. I understand that type of marketing.

ChitChatarunga · 05/06/2016 23:12

I think that's awful. The fact that it's not personal is not the point. The point is surely that they sent that crappy email to hundreds of thousands of women, and sadly, a lot of women will just think, ''must buy razors''

angryangryyoungwoman · 05/06/2016 23:21

Wow, more sexist bullshit marketing. Thanks for the heads up on where I won't want to spend money in the future. Hope they do see this thread and the number of people rejecting this crap and therefore their products

TwatbadgingCuntfuckery · 05/06/2016 23:22

Stop commercials advertising deodorant ect as its telling women to make sure their Pitts smell nice, and if a women wants sweaty pitts.

Deodorant is sold to men and women equally. how they market the product is the problem.

For example. Lots of women's deo products were and still are often packaged in stereotypically women's colours. Pink and pastels with softly sounding names and 'sensitive' and advertised in a way that women don't want to look icky or ruin their pretty dresses with sweat stains. Whereas men it's advertised because they work hard and exercise and do 'man stuff'. With the bottles packaged in very masculine colours with 'extra strong' and 'tough' labels on them. Lynx ads in particular are very sexist.

It's not the product that's the problem. It's the advertising and marketing that implies men are tough and strong. Women are delicate and look pretty.
Thankfully deodorant and antiperspirants are moving with the times and there are now some fab unisex brands.

As for weight loss. Yep absolutely directed at mostly women because in advertising women are meant to be slim but on the flip side men get all the adverts for weight gain, muscle building, body building products because in advertising men are meant to be strong and tough. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it's not their. Look in men's mags, on male dominated sites - even porn sites and see what is advertised to men and damages their body confidence and self worth.

Tackling a very small sexist comment like in the office advert will be a small step towards tackling the bigger issues in advertising that perpetuate unhealthy ideals for men and women.

clarrrp · 05/06/2016 23:24

I haven't shaved my legs in weeks and my girlfriend doesn't care.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 06/06/2016 00:27

Honestly. I pray to the sweet Lord that an email from office telling/advising me to shave my legs, was all I had to worry about.

FirstWeTakeManhattan · 06/06/2016 00:31

Iliveinalighthouse

I find it possible to be concerned about several matters at once.

I suspect the OP is capable of that as well.

UterusUterusGhali · 06/06/2016 00:37

YANBU.

Although I don't think it beats the time Jimmy Choo sent me an email "celebrating" International Women's Day with a picture of a hyper-sexualised, photoshopped woman, draped over a car, wearing hobbles, employing me to buy heels.

Everyday sexism is prevalent in "women's arenas" too. That's what makes it so insidious and dangerous.

UterusUterusGhali · 06/06/2016 00:40

ilive I care about many things.

My daughter growing up in a culture that says her body isn't good enough as it is is one of them.

littleprincesssara · 06/06/2016 00:43

YANBU. This is the whole point of everyday sexism, it's the constant, constant flood of tiny subtle little messages saying that women should look/act a certain way. Taking individually, this one email is not so offensive, no. But it's the fact it is a constant flood that causes so much damage.

The relationship between the creation of gender expectations and marketing is also pretty disturbing when you get into it. An awful lot of what we consider normal and take for granted today did not even exist as concepts until the mid-late 20th century when marketing people invented them for the sole purpose of making money.

UterusUterusGhali · 06/06/2016 00:47

Absofuckinglutey. ^

DecaffCoffeeAndRollupsPlease · 06/06/2016 01:03

Yanbu

Everyday sexism is so tedious.

JaneJefferson · 06/06/2016 01:09

YANBU. offensive advert. Hope they get pulled up on it. How dare they!

cdtaylornats · 06/06/2016 01:09

I was thinking the Office Paperclip was getting a bit personal.

RainIsAGoodThing · 06/06/2016 01:16

YANBU. Something else to add to the drip drip drip. I won't be shopping there again.

Loving Underthinkers by the way!

DoesAnyoneReadTheseThings · 06/06/2016 06:16

I won't be shopping there again, sick of every day sexism and the underthinkers (love that) thinking it's ok because there are 'bigger problems' or 'thousands of people were sent that email' (that makes it worse).

nuttymango · 06/06/2016 06:50

I didn't know there was a shop called Office so I saw the link to this thread and thought it was Microsoft Office!

Goingtobeawesome · 06/06/2016 06:52

I wondered if this was office as in work with the drama about it Hmm.

Just ignore. Just because they've said it doesn't mean you have too. I hate how this new generation is all about fish gape, thigh gap, trout pout. It's worse than when I was younger and every woman had straightened dyed blond hair and boobs out. Do what you want.

n0ne · 06/06/2016 07:01

YANBU, that's a sexist piss take

mumcantmakeadecision · 06/06/2016 08:05

I thought you meant Microsoft....
But yes it's weird. Your legs are not their business.