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AIBU?

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For still feeling awful I didn’t say anything at the time?

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DailyMailKissMySlice · 03/06/2016 14:29

I’ll try and make this as brief as possible while still covering all the details. Regular poster but have name changed for this (for obvious reasons). In case there’s any doubt, if this wedding goes ahead I think TidyDancer should decorate, lemon drizzle bitch makes her famous cake, we all travel to Maui for it, cancel the cheques and give a penis beaker as a gift instead, hoping there’s no fake dead cats on a wall nearby. Perfectly willing to be told IABU, in fact I’d welcome it!

I used to be very good friends with a woman “A” for about 10 years (since we were late teens). She was a bit spoilt for want of a better word, but not a brat or horrible. She never worked, parents supported her lavish lifestyle. She has never really had any responsibility or had anything not go her way/handed to her. I say this as I feel it may be relevant. I was in no way bothered by this through our friendship, she was a good person, we had a laugh and that’s all that mattered to me. We now no longer speak as a result of how she has treated “B”.

She met “B” in Oct 13. They saw each other a bit (lived approx. 200m away) in my city (pretty much the middle between their homes). Now, she had a tendency to be a bit dramatic at times. So they were very on and off. She would declare it was over if he didn’t reply to a text in time, go out, have a ONS, and then the next morning say it was back on as he apologised for upsetting her. Wouldn’t tell him about what happened as “we were broken up then”. Not how I’d do things but, not my life, not my issue.

They broke up for good in early Feb. Forever, done, I hate him, I deserve better, the works. I have messages with the dates confirming this relevant. Throws herself into going out, having fun, usual post break up stuff. I go out with her a lot and try to make her feel better about the whole thing.

Mid April on one such night out, I am sent away after I come back from having a cigarette as “I’m going back with “C” now to my hotel”. Well….ok then, even though I was supposed to be staying there. I ask her to let me know when she’s back and how she is in the morning. Next morning, I get a text “reviewing” Cs performance in great detail also relevant

End of May I receive a picture message from her of a positive pregnancy test. That says “4-6 weeks”. So we talk, I ask what she wants to do, how she is and generally try and be supportive as this is obviously a shock. She wonders how she will tell “B”. Being –slow- naive I thought this was an “in case he finds out from someone else and is hurt way” (yeah I don’t know why that was my first thought…..). He is out of the country in a place with patchy phone coverage. I suggest that maybe she should wait until he’s back to tell him, as face to face would be a lot better than a text. I say that he won’t be able to do anything from there and it would come across a lot better if she spoke to him in person. He’s due back in 3 days.

Next day I get a call from her wondering why Bs friends are being soooooo mean to her. He has apparently gone on a bender in other country after speaking to her, and they were messaging her asking what she did. I ask what she said that would cause that. “I did what you suggested, I didn’t tell him. I said I needed to speak to him about something serious when he was back and I was sick every morning. I didn’t tell him, he worked it out!!!”. Right. I ask her if he thought he was the Father or did she at least make it clear that he wasn’t. I was glared at and told of course he was the Father as there was no other possibility, she hadn’t been with another man since she met him in Oct :S :S :S

No reasoning will work, but I figure there’s no way she’ll get away with this as…well giving birth when the maths/timing is off will mean B will have to question this. They get back together and I back off. He is smitten and clearly worships her. I can’t stand to see this knowing everything he’s dreaming off will come shattering down in a few months. He really is a lovely, sweet guy without a bad bone in his body. He’d do anything for her. So I’m a coward, I keep my mouth shut.

She tragically loses the baby. I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy and I’m in contact with her throughout, offering any support I can. B takes it incredibly badly, even attempting suicide as he feels “guilty for not being with her from the beginning”. I still keep my mouth shut, as what good can saying anything do?

Given how this started I didn’t think they would last. I assumed it would run its course. She refused to tell him the truth (I only brought it up once after) as “well he isn’t going to figure it out now, so why ruin what we have?”. That’s when I stopped making contact with her. B proposed to her (for the third time) and she accepted in Dec 15. She only realised I hadn’t been making contact when she text me to ask if I would be bridesmaid. I didn’t reply within the hour so she took to social media (I know) complaining. I sent her a message saying I couldn’t stand up and support her in this as long as she hid what she did from “B” and that as horrible as it was at the time, basing a marriage on that big a lie just made a mockery of it (not my proudest moment). So I’ve been made out now to anyone who will listen as being a despicable, evil, jealous b!tch who is either suffering from a personality disorder or bitter as I was in love with A. I think this all started because when she realised I wouldn’t support her, she thought I’d show B the timeline through the messages/tell him to his face. I’ve just ignored all this and kept silent through this all.

I no longer miss our friendship, as I realised the person I thought I was friends with would never do anything so cruel. I have no intentions of getting in touch with anyone to show what she did. (thank you anyone who has made it this far!!!!)

If he doesn’t find out before the wedding, he could still work it out later? Or if he always knew it was a lie but went with it to be with A, could someone really keep up the pretence forever? I try and not think about it at all but every now and then I think “If it was my brother/friend who was marrying someone who did this to them, would I want them to know?”. I can’t say anything now but

AIBU to still feel awful for B? and AIBU to feel so guilty for not being braver when this started as it could have stopped it going so far. If anyone has any suggestions for how to get over this I’d really appreciate it.

OP posts:
myownprivateidaho · 03/06/2016 16:50

But has A actually said that she knows the baby isn't his? I'm confused about why there's so much animosity towards her. If she says it was his, is there not a chance she knows it was? And if B was supporting her before the mc, will they not have had conversations about how far along she was? And what was she planning to do before the mc? I feel like it's probably not as simple as it seems to the op.

DailyMailKissMySlice · 03/06/2016 16:53

Sorry myownprivate yes she did. After mc she said there was no point in telling him the truth about it. And it made him happy thinking he was the Father. That's what her getting in contact was. Not outright saying it was his but letting him believe it then saying he was so happy it would have been cruel to correct himSad

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Hockeydude · 03/06/2016 16:54

Fucking hell. Cut contact with her.

B is s adult, he has seen enough to give a good idea of what she's like. He's sticking his head in the sand, but again, his decision.

Keep away from all of them and the mess. You don't need it!

ReginaBlitz · 03/06/2016 18:26

Tell the poor fucker.

RuggerHug · 03/06/2016 19:02

Bloody hell....continue to avoid contact and save yourself from any more stress!ShockWine

Janecc · 03/06/2016 19:56

If he is that fragile, I would worry about him threatening suicide if you did tell him. So I also think it would be best to leave it be.

I like the Facebook response though. Very good. She really is a bully.

Roussette · 03/06/2016 20:19

Anyway, my point is that even now, 10 years later I'm still plagued by thoughts of "should I have told her?". At the time it felt like the right decision to keep it from her but now I really wish I hadn't. Sometimes I really want to tell her but the impact of the truth coming out would have a huge impact due to the complicated situation the cheating occurred within.

I just feel differently to lots of posters on here. The thing is... none of us are perfect, your friend's marriage has survived 10 years and maybe it's really happy, we are all flawed in some ways and do some stupid things. That doesn't mean we can't love and do love and uncovering every bit of your past is sometimes not the way to go. anyway that's what I think.

Sorry Writer I know I'm quoting you, but I am talking in general.

TendonQueen · 03/06/2016 20:31

Agree with the pp who said that some couples thrive on drama. It's far easier for them to make you the bad guy than to address issues in their own relationship, so I would start the long process of accepting that people will be who they want to be and that almost always often it's very hard to change that. Leave them to their drama. Although I do like Jacket's facebook response very much.

Writerwannabe83 · 03/06/2016 20:35

Unfortunately rousette he's an absolute twat and treats my friend with little respect in many ways. He's so arrogant and not really liked by any of her friends and family. I wouldn't be surprised if he's cheated on her again either to be honest. My friend has spoken to me a few times about how unhappy she is at times and I think on a few occasions she has seriously considered leaving him but they have children together and things are very complicated.

It's actually 6 years they've been married, not ten, and sometimes I think whether if I had just been honest at the time then I could have prevented all this current heartache Sad

Roussette · 03/06/2016 20:38

Ahh writer well that's different! Once a twat, always a twat!

Janecc · 03/06/2016 20:41

writer that's so sad. I imagine you have some if onlys. It is perhaps never too late to come clean. But I would probably get my own thread for that one. Sad

RuggerHug · 03/06/2016 23:28

Ah writerwannabe83Sad that's really heartbreaking Sad wish I had something useful to say but that just really hit me since you obviously love and care for your friend so much!

Thingiebob · 03/06/2016 23:34

You're not the one with a PD here. Walk away. They are both quite dysfunctional.

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