To think this should be paid for out pf your own pocket

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I totally understand the want to not have children but unless getting pregnant accidentally would endanger your life of lead to other medical issues

Simply not wanting to have children should not be paid for by the tax payer as its not a medical issue its a want rather than a need and it's not as I'd there are not semi permant ways not to have children and condom and coil combined normally do the job

This is in light of the lady who won her case to be sterilised

Everyone's covered the reasons you're being unreasonable, I'm just seconding it.

I disagree that taxpayers paying for sterilization is a valid reason to refuse one.

I don't know for sure how the cost of sterilization balances out against the cost of life long contraception (plus possibly abortions if the contraceptive fails), but it's difficult to imagine sterilization being drastically more expensive. Especially when you consider that some contraceptives can sometimes have negative health effects which might require further treatment on the NHS.

I'd definitely expect the cost to the NHS (and therefore the taxpayer) of pregnancy and birth to outweigh the cost of a sterilization operation. The cost to the taxpayer incurred by a child as it grows will also outweigh the cost of sterilization.

Gf.

Taxpayers money gets wasted on all manner of pointless shit.

Contraception is not one of them.

Seconding tuesday's diagnosis - gf!

Of course providing free contraception is a net benefit to the taxpayer, because it is far, far cheaper than the alternatives, anyone who can't see that is, shall we say, mathematically challenged.

YABU. Children cost the tax payer much more than a one-off sterilisation.

What if childfree parents insisted parents pay for their child's schooling, healthcare etc?

What if childfree parents insisted parents pay for their child's schooling, healthcare etc?

yy to this.

Although I very much doubt 90% of people could afford it given that it is around £25k per child per year.

And what if childfree people on reaching retirement age had to pay the full cost of their pensions rather than piggybacking on the current economic efforts of the offspring of their contemporaries?

And what if childfree people on reaching retirement age had to pay the full cost of their pensions rather than piggybacking on the current economic efforts of the offspring of their contemporaries?

Claptrap.

I am really struggling to see any logic in the OP to be honest, there is literally none!

OP, do you oppose vasectomies bring avaliable on the NHS too? Or just female sterilisation?

I was also going to ask whether you think vasectomies should be paid for privately too, but a PP beat me to it.

Is it just women who are not allowed to be sterilised on the NHS?

You are being totally and utterly unreasonable OP. She is just as entitled to receive an NHS funded sterilisation as your are to receive an NHS funded birth or NHS funded contraception.

I have not read the full thread yet but in response to the op

i don't personally feel this way but my instant response to what you've wrote is

I haven't given birth and I never will so why should my tax input pay for you to have 1 or more children for free on the nhs?

Why should my tax pay for you to have care during your pregnancy then your birth then your aftercare because of a choice you have made to add to the population?

my real feelings are we as a society should support all people to be as healthy as they can in whatever circumstances they are in (even if I don't agree with their life choices) if we (nhs) don't support everyone we shouldn't support anyone!

That's strange. Op hasn't been back. Never expected that.

I'm thinking that could be a possibility too purple.

Why should my tax pay for you to have care during your pregnancy then your birth then your aftercare because of a choice you have made to add to the population?

This is similar to saying anyone who does anything that could possibly be detrimental to their health (drinking, smoking, eating certain foods, holidaying in certain locations, driving too fast/dangerously/without due care, too much exercise etc...) should not receive care. Luckily the NHS is not as judgemental!

Places that do not have free access to free contraception have problems.

Free contraception must save more money surely and not making babies is a big bonus for physical or mental well being Tax payers paid for my sterrilisation

Why shouldn't it? The NHS pays for women to have fertility treatment. What if that was also vetoed? Sounds fair to me using your criteria, no risk to health in NOT having a baby, etc.