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AIBU to want to go home?

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aupair102 · 16/05/2016 10:52

Hi! I know that this is a site for mums and I am an au pair, but i really need some advice. I think this is a good place to get it as you all will be understanding from the family's perspective rather than just my own.

I've been an au pair with this family for 3 weeks now, and I am desperately unhappy. I've lived away from home for 3 years now so its not just homesickness but I am finding it incredibly hard. I've got years of childcare experience - my brother and sisters are 4/6/9 plus other experience, but the behaviour of the little girl here I am finding hard to deal with.

Her parents work all day, the mum is around for breakfast (which makes things difficult) and then they aren't home until 8pm for dinner, then I take her for 2 hours whilst they spend time together and then I put her to bed at 10pm (which for me seems very late for a 4 year old!) She refuses to do anything I ask, and it is getting to the point where its putting her in danger. The other day I asked her to watch where she was walking and she refused, almost walking right into the path of a car. I am patient, I dont shout, and always speak with her on a level, but the second I ask something of her or tell her no to anything it is a meltdown - screaming/shouting/hitting. She then proceeds to tell her parents that she doesnt like me and she doesnt want to do anything with me anymore right in front of my face. Its really hurtful, I know its silly because she is only a child and i shouldnt let it get to me but after I have spent my day playing, baking, going to the park and days out for her to say these things just because I am the first person to ever say no to her is very difficult. I could probably handle it if it wasnt for the parents to then glare at me from across the table and not speak to me, refuse to let me take her to school in the mornings and cut across me whenever I try to help.

In the mornings, if she doesnt like what i say- for example - lets go to brush your teeth now or we will be late/you need to wear your uniform, not a dress - she runs to her mum who will usher me out the room and proceed to let her do as she likes and stop me from doing my job. I understand each parent has their own way of doing things but surely undermining what I am trying to say is not ok?

I have just finished my degree, and told the parents that if they wanted me here earlier (i.e now) then there would be a few weeks where i would need my days off to finish my dissertation. This weekend (I have sat afternoon and sunday off) they wanted to go to stay in their house by the seaside, and asked if i wanted to go. I declined, saying that I needed to study. Before they left, the mum came and told me that she was unhappy that I was staying as she was uncomfortable with me being in their house whilst they were gone for the day. This made me quite unhappy, i stay alone during the day anyway, and furthermore, how can you comfortably leave me with your child but not in your home? I feel like a member of their staff rather than the 'big sister' that they made me believe it would be.

I know it seems silly, but I dont know if i can carry on being pushed aside and stopped from doing my job any longer. I hope it gets better and I will leave it for a few more weeks to see if it improves. Do you have any parenting advice for a child who is used to getting their way in every situation? I dont want to come across as pampered and easy to complain because that is the opposite of my character! I love kids, it makes me happy to be around them but this is draining me. I cant even sleep anymore I am worrying so much. Any advice (even if it is just to suck it up!) is very appreciated.

xxx

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TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 16/05/2016 11:46

So you are a nanny on less than £1GBP an hour for a family who exploit, undermine you and don't trust you except where it makes their life easier.

Leave. ASAP and consider it a hard lesson learned. I'm sorry. Your degree should take priority at this point. There are people who do this shit in the the UK too but the norm might be to do breakfast and the school run, plus after school care ending by 7pm. Weekends off with 1-2 nights babysitting per week. Your situation is abusive and falls under the Modern Slavery Act

Do you have the right to work there? Can they make life difficult for you?

zen1 · 16/05/2016 11:47

If you are still doing your dissertation, is there someone at uni you can ask for help re transport? If I were you, I would leave ASAP.

gonetoseeamanaboutadog · 16/05/2016 11:50

They sound like bad parents, bad employers and thoroughly unpleasant people to boot. I cannot imagine it changing enough for you to happy.

My strong advice would be for you to get out before it affects your health because it's already started to if you can't sleep properly because of it.

As an au pair, there are a certain number of hours you should be working and you are far in excess of this. Even if you were a nanny, they're taking the mickey.

I've worked as a nanny and felt totally rejected by the child. It's awful, but it's just a reflection of how much they want to be with their parents, which is only natural. It's nothing personal.

Please do get out of this situation. If you need some money to get to the airport, I would DEMAND your wages and threaten all sorts of legal action if they don't provide a way for you to get there.

gonetoseeamanaboutadog · 16/05/2016 11:50

If you report them to the various sites they advertised for you on, it would make it difficult for them to find a replacement. That's one possible threat! Do you have parents who could call and be sternly threatening too?

Oriunda · 16/05/2016 11:55

Unfortunately 10pm bedtime for a 4yr old is standard in Italy - at least in my area. My 3yr old niece goes to bed at 11pm. I have a terrible time out there with DS as family expect to see him at all hours. I can get away with 9-10pm in winter but they don't have dinner until 1030pm in summer so 12/1am bedtimes the norm (he has to have a late afternoon nap). One of the reasons I won't move out there.

Discipline is also not the same as in UK - I'm considered strict.

Definitely leave - cut your losses if necessary but do threaten to report.

aupair102 · 16/05/2016 11:57

I suppose I could go to a priest, the only issue is language. my italian is good but not good enough, I think i will try.

I believe that i have the right to work here - british person in italy but it wouldnt surprise me if she lied..

The only way I think they could make it difficult is because they have a copy of my passport, and I signed a contract. The contract is in italian but does not stipulate how many hours per week I should expect.. I went into this very naively, you live and you learn I guess :(

I'm going to google for taxi firms to get to the airport! I have enough savings to get home, just dont know what to do when im there! No job/house which sucks but it will all work out eventually. :( Thanks for all your advice ladies it has made me feel much better/less crazy :) xx

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MrsKoala · 16/05/2016 11:58

I think you need to leave asap. Personally if i thought they would make life difficult or if i needed them to help me get to the airport i would lie.

Tell them you have a family emergency and have to go home this weekend. Say you will go Sat and come back Monday/Tuesday so they wont be too inconvenienced. Say you need some money for a ticket so can they give you the 320 euros?and need a lift to the airport. Leave and never go back.

They are not the type of people to be reasoned with and if you tell them you are leaving permanently i predict they will not be kind or pay you. Far better to just get out. Demanding things may only get their entitled backs up. You catch more flies with honey etc.

Good luck

SouthDownsSunshine · 16/05/2016 11:59

I really feel for you, do you speak any Italian?

You know you're being exploited, and you should get out of there. Ask/demand your salary, and leave. I would go as far as to ask them to either pay for a taxi to the airport, or give you a lift.

According to 'aupairworld', you should only be working 30 hours a week, spread over 6 days. So legally they are exploiting you as well.

confusionis · 16/05/2016 12:00

Leave
This is what modern day slavery looks like

MrsJayy · 16/05/2016 12:01

Goodness can you email the company you got the job from I know you said they were a bit iffy but maybe they can help you i think you are best to cut your loses and just leave the contract wont stand up anywhere

ugottabekidding · 16/05/2016 12:02

I had an au pair for about 18 months who was really lovely. She could only legally work up to 5hrs childcare a day plus up to 2 night's babysitting a week Monday-Friday if we wanted it (we hardly ever went out during the week though) and we had to pay her extra if we wanted her to babysit at the weekends. She would work from 8-10am in the morning and then from 4-6pm in the evening. This was in 2006 and she was supposed to be paid £65 per week but we paid her £100 per week as we felt she always did more than she was supposed to (because she wanted to). During the day she went to English classes or hung out with her friends. We always treated her as a member of the family. You are working too many hours where you are and they have yet to pay you. This is not good. I would leave and don't worry about leaving them in the lurch - they are not treating you fairly and even if you tried to talk to them about how unhappy they are - they have such a long way to go to turn things around that I can't imagine things ever being right. They are not the right family for you. Don't give up on being an au pair though as you sound a very kind & caring person and another family would be lucky to have you. Good luck!

Liiinooo · 16/05/2016 12:03

There are plenty of UK families looking for au pairs who will abide by the employment law and be happy to have you.

Janecc · 16/05/2016 12:05

Pack your bags and leave. Don't give them notice. They are exploiting you and we are taking about your safety. You are in a very vulnerable position, they are very selfish and you are already saying you think they will refuse to release you and take you to the airport. Can you call on your parents to get you out? If you were my daughter, I would be on a plane now ready to pick you up. Do what others have suggested, get your money before this weekend, find another expat, find a priest, go to the police if you have to as you are being treated like a slave. Just get out.

KingLooieCatz · 16/05/2016 12:10

Another family will be delighted to snap you up and you will quickly be much happier and start getting paid your worth. Other parents will welcome you setting appropriate boundaries and their children will enjoy playing and baking with you etc.

I have friends who have had au pairs and nannies and they would consider you an absolute godsend if you did half of what you have been doing for this family.

Good luck.

BitOutOfPractice · 16/05/2016 12:11

They get in at 8pm and then still leave the child with you for 2 hours to have "time together"? Blimey!

OP they are taking you for a ride. I'd get out asap

MrsKoala · 16/05/2016 12:12

Actually i am looking for an au pair...

ZippyNeedsFeeding · 16/05/2016 12:12

You could phone the British Consulate in Rome. The details are here;
www.gov.uk/government/world/organisations/british-embassy-rome#our-services

KingLooieCatz · 16/05/2016 12:13

Just wondering whether British Embassy can help? You might feel better just knowing their is someone on your side! Especially if the employers withholding your pay means that you cannot afford to get home. If they won't help you get home it might focus their minds if you mention that you have no option but to do ask the British Embassy for help to go home.

FuriousFate · 16/05/2016 12:14

If you're an EU citizen then you're entitled to work there.
Can you call the British embassy? They might be able to help you.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 16/05/2016 12:15

If you are British, ie an EU citizen you have the right to work in Italy though possibly you might have to be registered locally

MrsKoala's plan is good.

Was it this website?
www.findaupair.com/

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 16/05/2016 12:20

Ask for your money and then go.

Janecc · 16/05/2016 12:29

I like MrsKoalas plan too. You could even go at the weekend so you wouldn't be home alone, which is what they don't want - yes, they may well buy it.

Janeymoo50 · 16/05/2016 12:29

You poor love. Today, this afternoon, phone someone you know and trust. A family member, close friend. Get a paper and pen and plan your "escape". Make sure all the arrangements are in place first before leaving. Be this a lift to the airport (from someone in the village, maybe someone at the local church?), be careful though.

Obviously you are very sensible and intelligent and won't abandon the child but you need to tell them you are leaving too (after your plans are 100% sorted and paid for.

Good luck.

MyLocal · 16/05/2016 12:29

Pack your bag chick and go. I would write a letter (and keep a copy) and tell them exactly why you have left. They are seriously taking the .

EarthboundMisfit · 16/05/2016 12:32

Wow! No wonder you're unhappy! Nothing to add to the advice already given, but lots of support.