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To think the Yr 6 Reading Comprehension Test today was far too difficult?

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Lottielo · 09/05/2016 15:40

Ds just home from school and very upset because he found the reading comprehension paper much harder than previous sample papers he has done in school. He didn't even finish the paper (missed out 5 questions).

Was this paper harder than expected or was my Ds not properly prepared by his school? I know it shouldn't matter too much, but I'm worried it could knock his confidence.

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Grumpyoldblonde · 11/05/2016 19:05

We are bothered because the tests are so difficult and our children are being set up to fail, because many schools are piling pressure on the children (my class was told "I already know who won't do well" cue a classroom all thinking they are dim. they hear the news at this age. The parents are trying to keep their children calm. We won't know their 'scores' So no, it's not parents stressing out their children.

littledrummergirl · 11/05/2016 19:07

Dd was very happy tonight. She said she thinks she may have only got two wrong in the arithmetic paper and finished the reasoning with 20mins to spare. She was more happy because they were given sweets afterwards and had lots of free time. Grin
One more day to go and then they can have some fun in school.

RunnerOnTheRun · 11/05/2016 19:30

All fine here today.
We have internal testing on Friday too (science).

LumpySpacedPrincess · 11/05/2016 20:18

That's right Angie, just silly parents getting their knickers in the twist. We should all just relax and Trust. The. Tories.

AngieBolen · 11/05/2016 21:11

Nah, I'm not advocating trusting the Tories, but there are obviously quite a few parents on MN who really, really need to calm down.

I understand teachers feeling the pressure, but it shouldn't be passed on to the children, and I'd be pretty put out if my child felt under pressured by their teacher. TBH, if I didn't read MN, I could be unaware that parents and children were this worked up. I don't see it in RL. But then I, and most people I know don't care about the results.

I may care more if, instead of leaning creatively in Y7 like my DSs did, DD is doing endless SPAG practice papers. in an attempt to get her to pass good luck to them with that

AvaLeStrange · 11/05/2016 21:57

DD is a bit all over the place today - she came out and said she definitely got a couple wrong on each paper but overall thought she'd done ok, but by bedtime she was saying she didn't feel as confident as when they did the practise paper.

She's definitely a bit on edge and seems quiet and tired which isn't like her, but I think it's just a bit strange for them and it's bound to have some effect however small.

Taking her for dinner after school tomorrow and have nothing planned for the weekend which will be a good thing I think.

heavenlypink · 12/05/2016 16:21

Well reasoning paper two done and dusted ..... and not too bad either. A couple of tricky ones but much better than I expected. Children all seemed happy with it too.

AngieBolen · 14/05/2016 22:34

From MN home page:

A survey of teachers by TES showed 89% are in favour of stopping SATS, and a survey of parents on Mumsnet showed 68% agreeing that the controversial tests should be scrapped. But 56% of the school children surveyed by children’s newspaper First News thought that CHATS should not be stopped.

As pupils, parents and teachers across England unwind after months of work focused on the Year 6 tests - and with reports that they were particularly challenging this year - it seems that children are more accepting of the testing regime than the adults around them.

Nicky Cox MBE, Editor at First News, said: "Our survey shows that children are more capable of taking things in their stride than the adults around them sometimes think."

Justine Roberts, Mumsnet Founder, said: "Parents on Mumsnet are, on the whole, worried that SATS cause stress and a narrowing of horizons. They understand the need for schools to be benchmarked and pupils’ progress measured, but they’re not convinced the current regime is the best way. That children disagree is both reassuring and no surprise - we’re used to our kids endlessly contradicting us."

DD got a little bored with the tests by Weekday evening, which I found reasuring as I took it to mean they hadn't just been doing endless test papers in school, but they had actually been taught.

She mentioned to me on Thursday evening they had one more paper to do on Friday. I was Hmm but she said it was science, and she was a bit worried she hadn't paid attention in the science lessons. -She will have paid attention, but it won't have been drummed in to her like Maths and English.

Anyway, come Friday morning, and indeed she was confronted with yet another paper. All children were sat down, ready to take yet another test. They all took it in their stride, as their teachers have spent two years preparing them properly. They turned over the first page and answered the first question......it was their end of year show script. Which part would they like to audition for? DD is going for a main part heaven help us and then they had a party.

I'm under no illusion my dyslexic DD with a working memory below the 1st percentile will "meet expectations". We will look intensively at one word a day from the Y6 spelling list over the summer in the hope that she retains some of them.

She will be going to a small high school where the teachers will know she is the sibling of her very able brother, and that combined with our post code and her dyslexia diagnosis (rare in these parts) will mean they keep a close eye on her progress.

But for DD could I care what her SATs results are? No. For the school do I care? Yes. Because the school took DS1 when no other school wanted him (he repaid them with very good SATs results in Y6). Because the school pushed DS2 to achieve his absolute maximum, and got the best out of him. Because the school have cherished DD even though she has had her struggles academically, they have never given up on her.

Yes SATs are pants. But I consider them the price of a free education (along with much of DHs tax).

For the parents fretting and saying the tests have been too hard....consider all those DC for whom they were always going to be too hard. No level 3 for the child who was a level 1 in Y. like my DD.....it was always going to be a great big "NOT MET EXPECTATIONS" So Welcome to the club. I knew this was coming and was able to build up my DCs self confidence in other areas. I'm sorry if you didn't and weren't, but if your child could actually recall any part of any paper of the past week and tell it to you (as seen in this thread) , my guess is they did OK.

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sallyjane40 · 15/05/2016 22:44

GrumpyOldBlonde: 'my class was told "I already know who won't do well" cue a classroom all thinking they are dim. '

This shouldn't be happening, and if it happened with my child I would complain to the head...but it IS'NT a problem with the tests, it's a problem with a teacher, who possibly feels under pressure to get a good set of results, but that's no excuse for pressurising the kids and making them feel inadequate :-(!
The schools worry a lot about these tests because they are judged on them, but in my experiences, they won't have much effect on the children.They act as a rough guide, but secondary schools allocate children to groups, sometimes by ability and sometimes not at 11, but then they move them around until they're at the right level, it isn't a big deal to the kids (unless their parents get stressed about it).
My oldest got good results in Yr 6, but then got put in low groups at secondary school (never knew why, but I decided to see what happened for a few weeks before 'interfering'). The teachers bumped him up through 2 groups within half a term to a level that challenged him.
At this age these tests are only stressful or important if teachers handle them badly, or parents get too anxious (or competitive...).

AngieBolen · 16/05/2016 17:55

At this age these tests are only stressful or important if teachers handle them badly, or parents get too anxious (or competitive...).

Exactly.

amidawish · 16/05/2016 18:30

i would usually agree but it is pretty disheartening (no matter how robust the child is) to set a test so hard that most can't give it a good go!

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