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To cancel my wedding because of my future in laws?

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MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 09:17

This is my first AIBU so please be gentle!

My fiancé and are I due to be married this summer. Venue is paid for and everything is booked. My partners family have thrown a few spanner in the works already. My future brother in law, let's call him Adam was upset he didn't get to pick his own best man suit and called up my DP saying it was a waste of his time going for a fitting as he "didn't have any say in the clothes" We found out through Adam that future father in law was unhappy because he wasn't wearing the same suit as his sons and in his words "he would look a spare prick at the top table" but we resolved that only because the man at the suit hire said that the father of the groom should not be identical as he didn't want them all to look as if they were in a marching band and most importantly the groom should stand out. My future mother in law won't tell anyone what colour she is wearing. I had to ask because my mum is getting a corsage and the florist said it should match the colour of her outfit. But my Dps mum won't tell me the colour. But she is miffed that then she may not have a corsage that matches. I don't know why she won't tell us, she says it's a surprise for the day of the wedding. I only mention this to avoid drip feeding!

So that was a few weeks ago. The maximum numbers we have for the wedding is eighty but our numbers are nowhere near that high. We only have 20 people we want there in total. We don't want a big wedding. We have sent out save the date cards. We had to contact father in law to be about getting addresses for some of the family on my DPs side. Dps dad asked for a copy of the guest list, without thinking I gave him it, we got the addresses, save the dates went out. Last night DPs Dad texts him and says he has booked hotel rooms for his cousin (so my DPs second cousin) and father in laws best man. Not my DPs best man, his dad's best man from his wedding 40 years ago who to our knowledge he doesn't see much of.

I realised right away that they weren't invited, checked the list and DP called and spoke to his Dad. We haven't invited these people. We have never met father in laws best man and in the eight years DP and I have been together, he's seen his dad's cousin twice. Both at funerals. There is no contact in between.

DPs dad started to get very upset on the phone, saying the hotel was booked already. DP hates confrontation and hates upsetting people but to give him his due he told his Dad that we hadn't invited these people, two of them we have never met and the other we see rarely. Our decision not to invite his fathers cousin is simply we don't want a big wedding with all the extended family there. None of my aunts and uncles will coming and certainly none of my parents cousins are coming. We want a small wedding.

So father in law to be puts DPs mum on the phone, the whole conversation is then repeated. She says his dad is devastated not to have the whole family there, they just assumed his dad's cousin would get an invite automatically as a second cousin is "immediate family" So even though none of these people had a save the date, DPs parents took it upon themselves to invite them and book them all hotel rooms. His Mum said we would have to do something about it and we then have to call them back. I don't feel we should have to fix this ? We haven't invited any of these people and it's not our fault they booked hotels without asking us if they could come?

So anyhow DPs mum starts to get upset and then she puts Dps brother on. Again we have to go through the whole thing again, dos brother lays on the guilt saying his parents are in tears, we should invite the whole family as they are never altogether and it isn't fair. He also said that Dps Dad will not come to the wedding if father in laws cousin can't be there. He also said we could add on these people as extras and they will pay. They are quite annoyed we have said no and have said its a matter of principal, it's our wedding day we decide who gets an invite, it's not for DP's family to turn it into a big family affair without asking and it's not what we want.

DPs brother *Adam messaged me this morning saying that four guests from their side won't be coming can we please Invite father in laws best man and his cousin? They just want to have the family there as the all the family only meet for sad times and they just want a happy family event. Why can't they just accept no means no?

It upsets DP and I that they are trying to turn our wedding day into a big family affair. I guess we are also a bit baffled because we hardly see DPs family. We seen them twice last year. They stay a 45 minute car journey away and they all drive but they just aren't interested in DP. We invite them round, we get told no. When we moved house and needed help with the move and for some things after, we asked for help and got told no.
Dps parents are retired and very wealthy. If they want big family get togethers they could have one any time, but they don't see much of the extended family either. It just feels like they want to use our wedding to have a big reunion (which is fine if that's what we wanted) and they seem intent in making it about them. It actually feels like they want to pretend at this wedding that we are all really close when the reality is completely different. We haven't seen DPs parents since Christmas!

So now I'm ready to throw the towel in. That how upset I feel about it. The day doesn't feel about us, it feels about DPs parents and their wishes. We would lose a lot of money to cancel and elope but I'm starting to think it will be worth it.

Adam is really pushing us (no doubt on his parents orders) to invite the best man and second cousin. We just don't want to and I fear that by giving in on this occasion there will be something else down the road I.e they aren't happy the relatives are only getting evening invites, Adam isn't happy his girlfriend of a month isn't on top table. I just don't want any more of this hassle. I just want to get married and Dp and I have those we want there to celebrate it with us. Is that unreasonable?

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Whisky2014 · 19/04/2016 10:57

Your FIL to-be just threatened he wouldn't go if his best man couldn't. He needs to grow up, jeez.
I'd tell him fine. If he felt that strongly about it don't go but that it's sad he will miss his sons wedding just because his bezzy mate can't come.

Don't give in! If they want a party let them organise one. Have you said that? If they say they want family to come together for a joyous affair then they should have a party themselves?

Have they contributed money to this wedding? My mum always said if her and my dad pay for my wedding then it's their choice of guest at my wedding, if I pay it's my say.
It's definitely going to be paid my me! Ha
I think that was normal years ago. My mums parents invited all their friends so my mum probably thought she'd get her mates at mine :/

squiggleirl · 19/04/2016 10:58

Absolutely DO NOT cancel your wedding.

This the day is about you and your fiance, and it needs to be about what you want. You didn't choose to elope, so don't now be bullied into it by anybody else.

This is what I'd do:

  • If they phone again, calmly explain that this is your wedding day, and ask them why they think it is okay to bully you and your DP like this.
  • Once you say this, it'll get messy. This'll get their backs up. They will be angry. Then you cry. Truth is you probably feel like crying anyway, and this is not the time to keep it in. Ask them again and again, why they're doing this to you and your DP, and that all you ever wanted is the wedding day you've both dreamed of.
  • The key to this working is you appearing vulnerable (which lets face it you are if you're not sleeping), but being firm with them. But do not back down.
  • This leaves them with 2 options, back off (which is what you want), or keep pushing, which they now know will make them look awful.

The next thing you need to do is create your own back-up group. They're rallying their troops, now you and your DP do the same. You need to have a group of people who will say 'It's about what Aura and her DP want. It's their day. All we want is for them to be happy.' at every opportunity. They need to present the face of how things should be.

And finally, you get yourself a big gun. This needs to be somebody important to you, with no connection to your DPs family. That can be a parent, sibling, good friend. They need to be somebody who will step up if your future ILs keep pushing these issues. They are the person who one day phones up and says 'This behaviour will not continue. The day is about Aura and her fiance, not you. There will be no more pressurising phonecalls. This ends now.' They also need to point out that you have your own family. Not everything is about what your DPs family want. That you have and will continue to have a family, and that your family do not allow one of their own be treated like this. This is all about showing that a group of people have your back, and that they are strong, and there for you.

Honestly, backing down and eloping will solve nothing. It'll just be a different set of headaches, about a different venue.

You will also be married for a very long time. Involvement from ILs doesn't suddenly improve the day you walk down the aisle. Unfortunately, they've shown how they plan on treating you as a couple, both now and in the future, and you need to lay out your stall and show them how you will handle this kind of behaviour, and how you won't put up with it.

MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 11:00

Yeahsure I agree it happens but I've never seen a case of in laws adding people to the guest list not telling anyone and booking hotels for said guests. That's what upsets us. They should have asked first. To then start crying and threaten not to come (apparently) I don't think it's fair.

I don't actually think MIl is the driving force behind this. I think it's FIL. Together they are united naturally but it's him that wants those guests there I think more than she does.

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Goingtobeawesome · 19/04/2016 11:00

Adam wanting his one month girlfriend at the top table is more unreasonable than your fiancé 's parents wanting cousins and best men there!

Elope!!

I had people I'd never met or met once either invited or at the wedding and it was fine. I was happily in love and wanted to make everyone happy. Your situation is different.

chillycurtains · 19/04/2016 11:00

This is not as straight forward as it seems. On the face of it, yes it is your wedding. YANBU to want to control the guest list. However your in-laws-to-be are only asking for two people (I guess 4 with partners) to attend the wedding. Is it really going to impact you that much? I can't see how inviting them will ruin your day. 20 extra guests then maybe but not 2/4 people. It doesn't hurt to think of other people and put them first sometimes even on your wedding day.

Regarding the top table and your DP's brother, I'm confused. If your guest list is only 20 then why even have a top table. If there are 8-10 of you on it then you will only end with two tables anyway.

Whisky2014 · 19/04/2016 11:01

It is a big deal. This is going to be a day t hey remember for the rest of their lives, why should they have people there that they don't know and don't want there?!

I am sure they could easily fill up the four spaces with other friends or family that'd be higher up the list than this best friend and cousin.
It's the principle.

IsmellSwell · 19/04/2016 11:06

However your in-laws-to-be are only asking for two people (I guess 4 with partners) to attend the wedding. Is it really going to impact you that much? I can't see how inviting them will ruin your day. 20 extra guests then maybe but not 2/4 people. It doesn't hurt to think of other people and put them first sometimes even on your wedding day

Ah but if she 'gives in' on this, then who knows what they might try and get away with in the future. Hmm
Give them an inch.......... being sarky

I don't think a battle of wills is a good way to start a marriage.
There needs to be a bit of compromise on OP's side .

Singsongsungagain · 19/04/2016 11:06

OP I totally feel your pain. Our wedding was a squillian years ago now but we had dramas over the wedding cake, bridesmaid dresses, guest list- even choice of bridesmaids (my sister refused to be maid of honour if I had one particular child). Just awful and totally ruins the joy and fun of preparing for your day. To be honest, on most things we ended up giving in for the easy life but it massively impacted our relationships with family members. I think weddings show you what people are all about. Sadly, ours showed us that lots of our family members are very selfish.

TheRealCornholio · 19/04/2016 11:07

Ooh OP, only elope if you will be happy in the long run.

I wanted to elope, didn't do it in the end, but wished I did. I wanted to do it here. Inexpensive enough to elope to and still get great pics.

www.gretnaweddings.co.uk/venues/caerlaverock-castle-11.html

ohh · 19/04/2016 11:07

Please, please read this advice as I was in exactly the same position as you 20 years ago...

I caved in under huge pressure from in laws and even had it in the reception in their back garden in a huge gross marque. The constant felling of being forced to see them all the time and not my family. Children saw more of the in laws than mine. DIVORCED after 7 years as couldn't take it anymore and to top it al off... My mother who adored her grandchildren didn't see much of them when growing up and has now passed away. I regret it every day.

Happily married to another man now that does have a big family, but no one pushes anyone to visit etc.

Elope or cancel the wedding and get married just with friends somewhere and don't tell them. They will get over it.

Best wishes.

kissmelittleass · 19/04/2016 11:07

From bitter experience my wedding was ruined because I didn't jnvite half the people there! Mil and sil thought they had the right to invite their friends and partners just because they had been to their weddings or knew so and do from way back when!! Like wtf that had to do with me and dh baffles me! They took invites and invited these strangers who all attended my wedding and I got told I was a awkward bitch when I tried to argue my point before the wedding. I gave in and I wish I hadn't it spoilt it for me and my in laws have never changed. So ELOPE with your future dh do what you want to do and Fuck them basically!

TheRealCornholio · 19/04/2016 11:08

Pics, prist and a castle for under 800. Fucking bargain Grin

Chippednailvarnish · 19/04/2016 11:10

Book the castle!

I'm sure a few MNers will roll up to be witnesses Wink

MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 11:12

It is the principle of the matter, it's an extra 4 people we don't actually know and two who we see rarely. As I said twice in eight years. My aunts and uncles aren't coming becasue we don't want a big wedding. Nor are my cousins.

I don't think I'm being controlling but wanting to invite my own guests but happy to have opinions.

With regards to top table there will be 7 of us. I'm not actually thinking right now about seating arrangements but like I said my biggest fear if we cave and say ok invite the four people, further down the road they will have more things they want.

My DP is easy going and could very easily be walked over, luckily he has grew a set for this and I don't think they like it.

I don't like to think of them upset, but at the same time we don't feel with the guest list we have been asked- just been told this is happening. We are paying for own wedding. Dps wedding present to us is they are hiring a mini van to take their side to the venue.

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ADishBestEatenCold · 19/04/2016 11:13

"My own parents think if we elope it should be with our parents and siblings."

It sounds as if your family are the understanding sort. Do you think they would be able to stretch their understanding even further? Do you think they would send you and your DP off with their blessing to have a proper elopement, just you two, no one else (literally passersby as witnesses), either in the UK or abroad?

That could be my option 'A', a wonderfully romantic thing to do. Then a quiet celebratory family dinner on your return, could be a good choice.

If that is too much for them or you, another option (although not an elopement) would be to cut the wedding list right back to just parents and siblings ... no-one else! A pre-lunch ceremony with a very special lunch after, or a late afternoon ceremony with a special dinner afterwards. Include only parents and siblings, and tell DP's family why you changed your plans and that if they kick-off you will go back to option 'A'.

In both those options you could still, of course have the 'dress' and make it as special as you wished. Or, if neither of those appeal, you could get DP to do the acting job of his life, by storming in on his parents and brother (spray his eyes with lemon juice first Grin ) screaming 'you've done it now you, you ##, Aura says if we can't have the wedding we want, she won't marry me at all' before collapsing in tears! Grin

CauliflowerBalti · 19/04/2016 11:13

This is not as straight forward as it seems. On the face of it, yes it is your wedding. YANBU to want to control the guest list. However your in-laws-to-be are only asking for two people (I guess 4 with partners) to attend the wedding. Is it really going to impact you that much? I can't see how inviting them will ruin your day. 20 extra guests then maybe but not 2/4 people. It doesn't hurt to think of other people and put them first sometimes even on your wedding day.

ChillyCurtains, 4 people on top of a wedding of 20 is 20% more people. I think. I'm shit at maths That's a significant percentage of the original guest list that you DON'T WANT THERE.

KinkyAfro · 19/04/2016 11:13

Stick to your guns midnight you're doing nothing wrong

Chippednailvarnish · 19/04/2016 11:13

A mini van? Wtf. Just what you've always wanted.

Fgs elope!

MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 11:15

TheRealCornholio That is gorgeous! Really lovely venue.

I'm going to have a think as will DP and we will decide this evening once and for all and make necessary arrangements if we do cancel.

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Shockingundercrackers · 19/04/2016 11:16

I had a similar issue - my inlaws wanted to invite 6 people I'd never met to our wedding. DH told them they could invite two people and that was final. They sulked, said 6 or nothing, DH stood his ground. In the end they didn't invite anyone, but got over it and hardly ever mentioned it again. We all had a brilliant day.

In retrospect I'm really pleased that it worked out that way. Not only did we have the wedding we wanted with friends and close family only, but it set the tone for the rest of our marriage and my in laws (lovely, but somewhat controlling and very used to getting their own way) have respected our boundaries ever since not something they appear to have done for DH's siblings but that's another story.

MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 11:19

"My own parents think if we elope it should be with our parents and siblings."

It sounds as if your family are the understanding sort. Do you think they would be able to stretch their understanding even further? Do you think they would send you and your DP off with their blessing to have a proper elopement, just you two, no one else (literally passersby as witnesses), either in the UK or abroad?

That could be my option 'A', a wonderfully romantic thing to do. Then a quiet celebratory family dinner on your return, could be a good choice.

If that is too much for them or you, another option (although not an elopement) would be to cut the wedding list right back to just parents and siblings ... no-one else! A pre-lunch ceremony with a very special lunch after, or a late afternoon ceremony with a special dinner afterwards. Include only parents and siblings, and tell DP's family why you changed your plans and that if they kick-off you will go back to option 'A'.

In both those options you could still, of course have the 'dress' and make it as special as you wished. Or, if neither of those appeal, you could get DP to do the acting job of his life, by storming in on his parents and brother (spray his eyes with lemon juice first grin ) screaming 'you've done it now you, you #**#, Aura says if we can't have the wedding we want, she won't marry me at all' before collapsing in tears! grin

Thanks for giving me the first laugh I've had all morning. I'm not sure if my parents would be ther understanding but nor would his be. The trouble we have with eloping is both parents come which is fine but then siblings and their families would come. To me eloping is us two and witnesses. Siblings would be hurt if they don't come.

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raisedbyguineapigs · 19/04/2016 11:21

I still harbour resentment about my wedding, which was all about my mother. I completely caved, because I couldn't be doing with the hassle, had it abroad (my parents are Indian) I knew about 10 of the 100 people there, I had never clapped eyes on my bridesmaids before, and will never see them again, probably. The cake was awful, the photos are awful. The honeymoon was spent with all my family and in-laws, who were 'challenging' to say the least! I don't even celebrate the anniversary. I had a registry office wedding for the legalities which was wonderful and intimate with my closest family and friends, but i'm still resentful because if we hadnt had the big wedding, we would have had more money for the little touches at the registry office wedding, which we regard as our real wedding. Could you elope then have a big party afterwards? then you have your wedding, and afterwards your PIL can invite whoever they want to what essentially will just be a random party and not your wedding day?

MetalMidget · 19/04/2016 11:21

Fucking hell, your in-laws sound insane, OP. I was remarkably lucky - none of our parents interfered with or had anything negative to say about our plans. I would have gone apeshit if they'd started inviting extra guests, especially ones that I'd never met, or if they'd started throwing tantrums about outfits.

I'd personally stand firm - any concessions to their demands will just invite more. They had the guest list, they KNEW who was invited - it's not up to them to decide who should and shouldn't be at your wedding. Make it clear that anyone else who shows up will be turned away and not catered for.

As for the outfits, don't worry about it - if they wear something clashing or ridiculous, it'll reflect on them, not you.

MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 11:25

But I don't want the venue anymore. It was a dream a family circus is not. No offence to those having big weddings.

The most important thing is Dp and I get married, become husband and wife. If I knew his parents would add on to the guest list ahead of time, we would have eloped from the beginning.

I have said to BIl If they want a big family reunion they should have a party/get together. No one is stopping them. They certainly have the money to do so. But they don't see any of these family members any more than we do so I'm genuinely puzzled.

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PassiveAgressiveQueen · 19/04/2016 11:27

I would send an email from both of you, stating "we want a small wedding, with our chosen guest list, if you try to force/guilt us to change this you will not be invited, this is your last warning, we do not want to hear another word about extra guests"

The reason for email they can weep and wail all they like but you don't have to hear a word of it.