To think that David Cameron should resign?

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Presiding over a government that is trying to spin doctors and teachers into militants ,

Supporting a chancellor that has failed to reduce the deficit by his own standards and has delivered two hated and u turning budgets in a row, over the death of the British Steel Industry, is attacking renewable energy in times of climate change, is taking support from the ill and disabled is and NOW he has admitted benefiting from TAX AVOIDANCE????!!!!
This is all wrong. How many more years of this?

Yes he should. Is the a government petition yet?

you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/david-cameron-to-resign-for-deception-and-conflict-of-interest?bucket=

But dishonesty is dishonesty peggy

Right I'm off to tesco express for my daily tax payer funded bottle of wine.

Have the Tories kept a single election promise?
They havent tackled immigration.
They havent looked after the economy.
They sold the NHS from under us.

I didnt vote for them so dont look at me

general election petition

The amount is completely irrelevant. If David Cameron had only benefitted to the tube of £1 he should still resign.

I don't give a toss because in the big scheme of things its neither here nor there.

To quote Mrs. Thatcher "What a luxury".

Sadly a lot of MNetters have to deal with the small scale of things. Food or heat ? Clothes or shoes ? Don't you just hate the poor ?

candy I work in press, specifically on political matters. I know it is a non-story that won't run.

candy I work in press, specifically on political matters. I know it is a non-story that won't run

By this I assume that you mean something that Murdoch runs- you mean it wont run because Murdoch doesnt want it to. Thats the difference.

The press (right wing) are abysmal. Junior Drs on strike and its on no front page other than the Mirror. Good one. You must think we are all daft. Thank God for social media.

Most people don't think this though and we have a very good chance thankfully of a Tory victory again at the next election.

Cameron thinks aggressive tax avoidance within the law is morally wrong. I disagree with him on that. I see it as a moral good as Big State is a moral wrong.

Also money is in different countries for all kinds of reasons. Some posters will haev a holiday home in France and a French bank account. There are loads of reasons not just tax that people do business with other countries.

I don't believe he has been dishonest - everything he has done has been legal and above board.

They sold the NHS from under us.
like labour did when they brought in £400million worth of PFI that we are still paying for now... labour privatised more of the NHS than any other party has...

They havent tackled immigration
is that the immigration policy that labour created when they started their social engineering?

Actually not Murdoch at all.

Yes, because a few angry people on Twitter will bring down the government. Jesus wept.

However you feel about legal tax avoidance - and I agree that he has been a monumental hypocrite here - it will blow over and there is zero chance Cameron will go.

To those of you saying that everyone would avoid tax if they could (and even claiming that it's the right thing to do), maybe I'm on a different planet but, if I won £30 million on the lottery, I honestly wouldn't be trying to avoid tax. I am in an extremely lucky position in that DH and I bought a house in London 20 years ago, made a huge profit from just sitting in it for 5 years and were then able to buy another one. 12 years later, we were able to sell it for 4 times the mortgage we took out. This meant that we could buy a slightly less desirable house outright and have enough left over to pay for uni fees and living expenses for 3 DCs. I recognise that it's pure luck that we're in this position and actually feel quite guilty about it. After we moved, I paid a fairly substantial amount to a charity that supports children, particularly girls, in developing countries. This doesn't make me some sort of saint, I partly did it to assuage my guilt.
I imagine that most parents, like me, try to instil a sense of fairness into their children. How is it fair that the poorest and most vulnerable in society take the brunt of austerity while the richest hide their money away where it can't be touched? I would have some sympathy with tax avoidance back in the 1970's when top earners were paying over 90% tax. The top rate for tax is now 45% on anything over £150,000. So people earning £200,000,000 a year pay exactly the same rate of tax as someone earning £150,000.01. All the research about money and happiness comes to the conclusion that poverty can definitely be a factor in depression but that, beyond a certain point, having more and more money doesn't actually make you any happier. Why, if you have tens or hundreds of millions, of pounds in the bank would you want to not pay tax at the same rate as everyone else? What does Gary Barlow or Jimmy Carr need that they can't currently buy? It's just greed and it makes an utter mockery of 'we're all in this together'.
In my job, I see people living in the kind of poverty that is beyond the comprehension of most people in a civilised society - families of 4 living in one room with rats running around everywhere. I could not sleep at night dodging tax whilst knowing that that was happening.
The tories just assume that everyone is like them and only care about themselves.

Look look! Peggy's going for another top Tory troll! It's the

"See that new labour? They were only marginally better than us on some things, and actually worse on some others. Or something"

Loads of folk agree with you. That's why we've got a conservative government, because there was no one left to vote for.

I'm not defending new labour.

I'm not even defending corbyn's labour, whoever they may up to be.

sick of the fucking boring power struggle between those that actually fundamentally agree that they'll keep the rich rich if they continue to pay them to do so.

I could not sleep at night dodging tax whilst knowing that that was happening.
The tories just assume that everyone is like them and only care about themselves.

As others have said it isn't party political. There are allegedly stories about Livingstone and Benn families flying around at the moment.

Many Labour MPs have said nothing about this They can't assume they aren't participating in legal tax avoidance either.

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1. im happy to have a conversation about tax dodgers - if we are going to speak about 1 lets speak about them all - in fact I don't even know why Cameron is being mentioned because he hasn't done anything wrong but people like brand have done something which does border on illegal but no one shouts about that.

1. people speak about tory policies doing things like dismantling the NHS however when its mentioned labour done more harm to the NHS than tories no one wants to acknowledge this. why so?

so im happy to speak about whatever but at least acknowledge that there are other parties who are just as bad a tories at pushing these policies through - lets also remember that without labour or libdems also voting for these policies none of them would have been passed!

MissH if you won all that money on the lottery it would not be taxable.

I am sure you could offer a contribution, though!

This is where a socialism tick box on tax returns might work well. Add an extra percentage of tax, whatever you like.

I, for one, believe we are taxed far too much already and disagree very much with many things the government does with taxpayers public money and as such employ an accountant to legally pay only what I have to. Of my friends, I know only two who don't.

Peggy, I have not and will not defend labour or lindens. Don't worry about that. I know they've been complicit.

And yes, I know there are plenty other despicable cunts about and David Cameron is likely not the worst. I have no desire to defend idiots like Russell brand either.

But , like others have said, David Cameron is the prime minister.

And if you continue to think he's done nothing wrong then you continue to be utterly out of touch

See that new labour?

To lighten the thread, posters of a certain age will instantly understand ...

That's you, that is ...

And the personal digs begin....

candy I work in press, specifically on political matters. I know it is a non-story that won't run

Tory press office?

And if you continue to think he's done nothing wrong then you continue to be utterly out of touch

I don't see a massive amount of people protesting about it - not even other politicians are protesting about it, maybe 1 - Tom Watson but hes a clown - there is maybe only a few hundred people moaning but I guess these are the ones that will always make a noise no matter what... I suspect most people don't give a toss... so no I don't think im out of touch - Im the same as the majority.

Yep don't care. Actually I'll just end my involvement here for the time being as dinner/bath/bedtime beckon so I'll invoke Godwin's law and compare someone to hitler and fundamentally wilfully lose the argument .

Solidarity scroungers!