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To worry about what ds eats with other people?

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Ivegotyourgoat · 05/04/2016 16:38

My ds (8), has a really sweet tooth and a general love of food. I'd say he can eat way more than I could at his age. He is genuinely a healthy weight.

I'm conscious of weight because I know he'd eat an unlimited amount of crisps/chocolate etc if allowed. I don't deny any foods but I try to keep track in my mind what junk food he's had.

When he was younger 3-4 years old my mum would look after him and I realised she was literally plying him with food. She'd give him a roast dinner or chips and beans and bread, then a cheese sandwich, then she'd have a large corner type yoghurt, a cornetto, a slice of cake, all in the space of a couple of hours, he'd come home with stomach ache.

If we stopped by briefly she'd make him cheese on toast even if we'd eaten.

After much discussion she reluctantly stopped. Now it's my in laws that doing it, example he was with them he had a packet of crisps, a Belgian bun, a crunchie bar and a chocolate muffin.

I went to my sisters and he'd had a jam tart and I was in the kitchen she'd given him a large bag of popcorn.

We visited a friend and he was given two buttons yoghurt deserts, crisps, an ice cream and a meal that would have fed two.

Just for context my idea of a normal days diet would be something like porridge, snack of a banana, lunch a sandwich/eggs on toast, apple and maybe some crisps then evening meal of spag bol/roast dinner/chicken potato and salad maybe a pudding like a yoghurt or fruit.

Everyone thinks it's a big joke and laughs that he loves sweets or where does he put it.

Surely it's not normal for friends and family to ply children with all that? It's got where I can't test him myself to an ice cream at the park if we are visiting anyone.

It's really hard to be assertive especially when people just hand him cakes without even checking with me first.

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Pinkheart5915 · 05/04/2016 17:17

I think they feed them because they think its nice and they want to treat them.

When I was a little girl my granddad use to buy me packs of 6 doughnuts from the bakers and let me eat them all, then afterwards gave me ice cream with sprinkles and I was 7 ate it all Mum was not impressed but he never stopped doing it. I just stopped eating it when I got to 10 and we done healthy eating at school, I was/always have been a healthy weight.
I am now 24 and still can not eat jam doughnuts though

I am very glad our ds is only 7 months so as yet this isn't a problem for us

GeezAJammyPeece · 05/04/2016 17:18

not helping

But, I empathise

To worry about what ds eats with other people?
catewood21 · 05/04/2016 17:20

a normal days diet would be something like
porridge,
banana,
a sandwich/eggs on toast,
apple
meal of spag bol/roast dinner/chicken potato
yoghurt or fruit.

You need to feed the poor lad better.At that age he will need about 2000 calories a day.You are giving him nothing like enough!

HPsauciness · 05/04/2016 17:22

I am with you on this one, OP, one of my children is overweight and one of the reasons apart from the fact she is hungry all the time, is because when she gets in any setting out of my sight, she just can't regulate her appetite- so school dinners, at grandparents, at parties, eating out in restaurants. I feel like an ogre stepping in and saying 'I don't think you need a third helping'. She often has a school dinner, snacks (buys with her own money as well) then goes round someone else's house and has two helpings of pudding. I do try hard at home to limit both her portions and her constant eating of sugary food, but now she is getting older (11) and has a bit of independence, it's incredibly hard.

Ok for a once every now and again treat, but all these constant treats add up. My other dd is very slim as she is not that fussed about food, eats sensible portions and if she goes to a party or round to her grandparents, has half a dessert if she fancies it, not three portions. It's kind of obvious which one will carry the extra weight.

HPsauciness · 05/04/2016 17:25

I should have said not just out of my sight, but out of my control, so social settings or round at grandparents, where it's not appropriate or as easy to try to control portions as much, not with an 11 year old (ok to do this with a toddler!)

shebird · 05/04/2016 17:27

My DCs know that I don't allow fizzy drinks but they have learned that DGPs will allow them when I'm not around, so it becomes good cop bad cop thing which I hate. The only thing saving their teeth from rotting is that they don't see them too often.

Obs2016 · 05/04/2016 17:27

Your ds is a healthy weight. So I'm not quite sure what the problem is.

KayTee87 · 05/04/2016 17:29

Porridge 200 calories
Banana 100 calories
Sandwich/eggs on toast 300-400
Apple 60
Evening dinner 600-700
Yoghurt /fruit 100-200

According to nhs most 8 year old boys should have 1700 so it's not much less and this isn't taking into account any juice he might have and all the shit he's being fed by other people.

Op yanbu, people aren't doing it to be bad though but maybe have a word with the worst offenders and ask them to only offer him healthy snacks unless it's birthday/christmas/easter

KayTee87 · 05/04/2016 17:31

Obs2016 it's not really just about weight it's about good over all health and eating habits to avoid problem's like type 2 diabetes etc in later life.
I'm eat rubbish sometimes but wouldn't want my kids eating that amount of rubbish.

Ivegotyourgoat · 05/04/2016 17:33

Worra sometimes I am there sometimes not. If asked I say no you've already had something, as a pp says it can become a good cop bad cop thing.** Good idea though, I have started doing that beforehand.

Cate do go away, I feed ds perfectly adequately, he eats the same as me and I'm an adult woman and a healthy weight, he has a school dinner which I pay for and a home cooked meal at home, he eats a smaller portion than his father. A lot of people in this country eat way too much and have a skewed view of what a normal weight and diet is, I don't think we even know what it is to be hungry.

Obs my worry is that being given that amount of sugary foods week in week out and he won't stay a healthy weight once he hits puberty.

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KayTee87 · 05/04/2016 17:35

Op I eat a very similar diet to your son and I'm 25 weeks pregnant an ld certainly not underweight so I wouldn't worry!

Blueberry234 · 05/04/2016 17:37

His diet looks fine, and even if you needed to increase calories people giving him a load of old shit isn't the way forward. It is unreasonable for anyone to ply a kid with that much especially if they haven't got an off switch. I am lucky my DS does have an off switch but I feel quite passionate about this as I was that kid who's GP 'treated' with food, I had no off switch and ended up morbidly obese and paying for Weight loss surgery.

curren · 05/04/2016 17:40

I wouldn't be happy with anyone giving my kids the amount of food that the people you know do.

Talk to them. Get your dh/dp to talk to his parents (did they feed him like this) and tell them to stop.

It may make you feel like the 'bad cop' but you are there to parents your child as you see fit. If it's bothering you (it would bother me) then step and say no.

He is old enough to talk to and explain that eating such large amounts of sugar isn't good for him and explain you are there to do what's best for him.

RabbitSaysWoof · 05/04/2016 17:42

That would piss me off, especially if you are quite sociable. I actually started to keep myself to myself a bit more at one point because I couldn't take my child anywhere without someone feeding him.

He started to go through a stage of being fussy at the table after every time we had been to someones house during the day.
If you ask them to stop and they don't respect that could you invite them to your's instead?
I hate when people make you feel uptight for not wanting your child to learn habitual face stuffing, there are overweight adults struggling with the repercussions of having had adults in their own childhoods show love through junk food. It's cruel.

Janecc · 05/04/2016 17:46

Yanbu. DD almost 8 has a big appetite and a very sweet tooth. The dreaded words "can I have something to eat." "I'm hungry." And sweets come from everywhere too - judo, horse riding, friends, family.... DD has a limit of 50p a week for sweets and a set number of sweet puddings unless we are on holiday or doing something special. These people do not see the whole picture and you will probably need to get very tough. My friend laughs at me because I talk to DD all the time about sugar but then her children don't have the same issues with food. My DD is overweight although she's stretching with age without getting much heavier so I expect she will even out eventually. Just heard the mummy I'm hungry as I'm typing. Grrrr

Ivegotyourgoat · 05/04/2016 17:47

Thanks, that was just a very basic overview anyway, at school they get toast for snacks too, he has access to unlimited fruit, we have lots of high calorie snacks like different kinds of cheese, nuts, his porridge might have a spoon of jam or Nutella or fruit, he drinks glasses of milk. He rarely polishes off his meals but would go for the pudding if allowed.

Mixed bag of opinions here then. I think I will start being more assertive in a nice way of course. As I explained to my mum it isn't just granny treating him, because most weekends he sees two grannies and an auntie, throw in a birthday party and he's had his yearly sugar quota in one day.

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Notso · 05/04/2016 17:48

I do worry. PIL had 4 picky eaters so when I had DD then DS1 who ate a wide variety of foods they thought it was fab.
However they don't know the difference between how much they could eat and how much they should eat. They would often get them adult meals when they were 3 or 4 because they were at a 2 for 1 type place so it was cheaper.

Owllady · 05/04/2016 17:52

You know my gran used to do this with me and my mum used to get angry and I have huge issues with food now, so I think it is important how you address it but I have no idea how

RabbitSaysWoof · 05/04/2016 17:57

I would address it with a conversation or even a carefully worded text so your ds doesn't get wind of it. maybe bringing it up away from when it is going on will convey how much it is getting to you, that you are going away thinking about it.

Janecc · 05/04/2016 17:59

Toast for snack?! That's just sugar, which takes a more little time to digest. I would hate it if school gave DD toast. My DD has packed lunch because she hates the school food and I give her what I consider to be a healthier alternative. Protein, veg, fruit and a bit of carb of either crisps or home made lower sugar banana/fruit bread with hidden veg inside ;) and sometimes bread) so I try that way also.

Ivegotyourgoat · 05/04/2016 17:59

Well my dh and his siblings all are/were obese. In laws probably have a good diet, mostly healthy food but eat absolutely huge portions all piled high and lots of Tesco finest type puddings. My family are just as bad in different ways, my parents eat tiny little portions, and don't eat much sweet things, but they fry absolutely everything and have bread and butter with everything and hardly any variety, they live on roasts and chips pretty much yet they're slim because they don't have big platefuls.

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HPsauciness · 05/04/2016 18:00

Janecc I know just what you mean. My overweight child is constantly saying 'I'm hungry'. My other does too, but not as much, and she'll eat an apple or a small bowl of oats and milk, not be roaming around looking for sweet treats or eating extra of everything. I don't know the solution without making her feel truly awful for over-eating, and at times lately, I've almost veered towards that to get her to try to stop the constant overconsumption.

Ivegotyourgoat · 05/04/2016 18:04

I think ultimately we could all pick each others diets apart, we don't have the perfect diet, school food isn't 100% despite being apparently a healthy school but I think if you're having 3 meals and fruit, veg, protein and carbs you're probably ok.

But having 4+ adult sized sweet treats is very excessive and bad for anyone.

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ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 05/04/2016 18:10

Unfortunately, some people see food as love. Some of my family do this and of course the child is happy. They can't see beyond that.
On the flip side, I wouldn't ban sweet treats or chocolate completely at home because it becomes the forbidden fruit
You can spot the kids at parties that aren't allowed sweets or cakes at home because they go mad with the party food, pile up their plate and don't want to leave the table..

BooAvenue · 05/04/2016 18:17

YANBU I had to put my foot down and ask grandparents not to give my kids sweets/chocolates except for on special occasions like Easter/birthdays. I don't want junk like crisps/sweets/choc to become part of the DCs daily/weekly diet as they invariably always end up having some "junk" at a party/cinema etc.

There is nothing wrong with not wanting your kids to eat shit on a weekly basis.

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