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to want to throttle cyclists who run red lights?

241 replies

Millionprammiles · 05/04/2016 11:26

Just that really. Am sick of dd being narrowly missed when crossing at a green man (outside a primary school ffs) . Small children are especially at risk as cyclists can't see them when they're coming up on the inside of cars, so they assume its clear.
Not one cyclist has stopped to apologise.

I can't take a licence plate number. Unless one of them actually hits her I'm guessing the police won't be interested in looking at CCTV. Which is why cyclists continue doing it, day after day.
I think I'm in danger of running after one of them and pushing him off his bike.
(And yes its always been a male cyclist).

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acasualobserver · 07/04/2016 11:37

my failures as a parent

I've no idea of your qualities as a parent, but you do seem to have taken an extremely defeatist position in terms of the problems at this crossing. Your answers suggest that the only solution is for your child's safety to be compromised at least once a week for the foreseeable future.

SarfEast1cated · 07/04/2016 11:49

I noticed that too Millionprammiles.

Lots of support from most posters tho. Police is the best route IMO.

backwardpossom · 07/04/2016 12:02

Let's be clear - I am absolutely not saying that anyone other than the cyclists who do this are at fault. But if it were happening so regularly that it had happened more than 100 times, I'd have my phone out ready to film so I could take it to the police!

ivykaty44 · 07/04/2016 12:31

have thought about filming but by the time I've got dd onto the pavement and got my phone out the cyclists are long gone.

The normal way to film is use a head cam or the likes...

People don't film for YouTube traffic films using there phones, they use head cams, dash cams and you can get cams to pin to your jacket.

ivykaty44 · 07/04/2016 13:05

Tbh the police can fine all cyclists jumping red lights just the same as police put vans in locations and work speed guns for motorised vehicles. It may be revenue for police force and thought as of dubious, but if it stops or prevents particular behaviour then it is working.

Report to police and if no action is forthcoming contact your local councillor, local elections in some areas are 5May

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/04/2016 13:39

the police can fine all cyclists jumping red lights just the same as police put vans in locations and work speed guns for motorised vehicles

Only if they can find out who the cyclists are - and without any kind of plates/other ID that's never going to be easy

I realise that with the elections due councillors will promise anything, but in my area at least there's just no will at the council to deal with this problem; they're too busy prattling on about us being a "cycling city", which is actually just an excuse to avoid doing anything about other public transport issues Hmm

ivykaty44 · 07/04/2016 14:49
puzzeledandpissedoff these police set up and catch the cyclists jumping red lights, none of the cyclists have plates or licences - there's no need.
Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/04/2016 17:44

Delighted to see those particular cops actually doing something, Ivy - but of course that particular idea depends on over-stretched personnel being on the spot. I can't speak for other areas, but round here they won't even consider it, so if light-jumpers are to be caught something else is needed

TBH I was thinking more of red light cameras, which is where plates/some of form of recognition comes in; not much point in getting a pretty picture of a cyclist if you can't check who they are

acasualobserver · 07/04/2016 18:13

TBH I was thinking more of red light cameras, which is where plates/some of form of recognition comes in

Are there any countries where number plates for cycles are required?

ivykaty44 · 07/04/2016 18:41

PandP

Not much point in taking photos to fine cyclist, as they are not like cars ( there are more cycles in this country than motors) as an asispde the pidgeon bike in China - the were 500 million made, more than any other mode of transport ever made. Therefore police need to actually be there to fine on the spot.

As for limited numbers, they have enough to sit in vans to fine cars for speeding so they could easily switch to push-bikes for jumping red lights.

It is 17% of red light jumpers not enough revenue for them compared to speeding motors?

No country has number plates on bikes as it would be to expensive to actually process and countries haven't got that type of money to spend.

AA another aside this government will spend in the next four years £300million on cycling

A cycling city, one cycling city would make savings to the NHS of £377million
That is big savings for the government, but they need to spend to be able to make those savings.

In Denmark they have equated for every euro they spend on cycling infrastructure, they save five euros. We could do the same.

We already have 68% of trips in London by bike and and average of 16% and at peak times 24%

How long will it be before trades people realise that a bike and trailer are quick and more efficient than driving a car and then not bring able to park - whereas a trailer can be unhooked and taken into a front garden unloaded etc. There are already trades people using cycling as a method of getting to clients, plumbers and gardeners. They don't get ticketed or motor costs etc

acasualobserver · 08/04/2016 08:36

No country has number plates on bikes

I asked about this earlier because I wondered if the posters recommending it could point to a successful implementation of such a scheme. My own limited research since throws up N.Korea as an example of a country with bike number plates.

Pedallleur · 08/04/2016 09:41

It really isn't about demonising cyclists. Number plates aren't going to work on bikes, no Govt (sensible) will do it since it can't be administered. The DVLA can't even keep track of all the cars on the road so what could do about bikes? It's about education and right/wrong. It irritates me that cyclists jump lights/go over crossings etc but everyday I watch motorists do it and more and 1+ ton of metal will do a lot more damage.

ChihuahuaChick · 08/04/2016 15:24

I like the cyclists round here a hell of a lot better than the motorists round here. Even the ones on pavements either stop or go on to the road quickly when they see a pedestrian coming the other way. It's the cunts in 4x4s and people carriers going down narrow roads with two wheels on the pavements and the idiots who think zebras are courtesy crossings that keep nearly doing me and the kids in.

ivykaty44 · 08/04/2016 17:36

Pedal

It's just not cost effective to licence bikes, children have bikes, some people have four or five bikes.

It would cost millions to set up and then millions to keep going.

That money could instead be spent elsewhere.

Licencing cars doesn't stop speeding, jumping red lights or other traffic offences so if you licenced bike what would you achieve?

SarfEast1cated · 09/04/2016 10:29

Surely it's just better to educate people rather than set up a whole new layer of government process. We want more people to cycle - it's good for their health, better for air quality and the environment. If you start keeping tabs on people so you can catch them easily when they break the law where will it end? All of us walking around with name badges so we be identified easily by cctv if we drop litter?
You have to trust that people will do the right thing.

ivykaty44 · 09/04/2016 19:27

www.motoring.co.uk/car-news/why-don-t-cyclist-use-cycle-paths-_62797 this article explains why cycle lanes are not always used as they are often badly designed.

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