To think if you don't use your f*cking indicators, you shouldn't be allowed on the road??

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It's getting unbearable where I live in London.
Today, trying to cross a crossroads with a buggy and I swear 1/4 of the drivers pulling out of the road opposite me didn't bother indicating before turning left. They are clearly expecting other people to psychically know whether they are turning or going straight on.
DP, who is a very careful cyclist, nearly got knocked off his bike today by an uber driver pulling out without indicating, and then swearing at him (DP).

THE HIGHWAY CODE STATES THAT YOU HAVE TO INDICATE BEFORE UNDERTAKING A MANOEUVRE! Do people not understand this anymore??? Clearly they don't in SE London.

YANBU, as a pedestrian this gives me the rage. I shout "your indicators are broken" at cars that don't indicate where I'm waiting to cross. This did result in one man stopping his car in an exit to a roundabout, getting out and squaring up to DH. Not allowed to shout at drivers when I'm with DH anymore.

What Meglet said. I did a defensive driving course and was warned against 'automatic' indicating as it meant I was on autopilot and not really concentrating on who was around me.

meg I was also taught by my driving instructor not to indicate if there were no other road users/pedestrians around. If you did it showed you were not concentrating and I would also get pulled up on it.

So for my lessons and subsequent driving test I conformed to this however once I got my license I always indicate in every circumstance. So that it did become ingrained habit and really what's the harm of indicating if no-one is there to see it?

On occasion I have thought there is no-one there and then a pedestrian has popped out from between two parked cars or a cyclist has hurtled down a hidden alley way... I don't think this means I don't pay attention to other road users but rather that as a car driver I have to prioritise my focus and concentration and the reality is that I just cannot see absolutely everything at a 360 degree angle around me 100% of the time. So surely it is just safer to always indicate no matter what

X post with Twowrongs. Yes, I can see the point of being on autopilot and not really concentrating properly but surely it is just safer to indicate anyway...?

That said, I live in London and there are almost ALWAYS other road users around in some form or another. It is not like I live in a remote rural village with 5 cars trundling down the 'high' street at midday

You should always indicated off a roundabout. How on earth does someone waiting to go on the roundabout know if you're exiting? It's not always possible to see if a car is going straight over the roundabout.

I agree SeaMagic. So long as you're indicating appropriately for the manoeuvre you're about to perform, far better to indicate than not IMO. Sometimes I'll even say to my DH if he's in the passenger seat "probably didn't need to indicate there but better safe than sorry".

The only regular situation I can think of in which I don't indicate is if I've overtaken someone on a dual carriageway and am returning to the left hand lane a safe distance ahead of them, unless there's a car immediately behind me in the RH lane in which case I do as a sort of "there you go, I'm getting out of your way now" message.

Thing is, unlike speeding or stopping in a yellow box, it's something that must be really hard to fine people for as it wouldn't get picked up on cameras. You'd need to have people watching junctions and then stopping people once they'd conpleted their bad manoeuvre.

My friend thinks it's to do with the increase in sat nav use - like somehow the sat nav is responsible for driving the car and is alleviating the driver of having to make decisions.

Yanbu it drives me mad. However just as maddening is people who drive along a perfectly straight road for miles with an indicator still going because it didn't turn off after a junction. How can you not notice the big flicking signal on your dashboard!

YANBU. Driving is awful these days. add points to their licence

We have a lot of drivers around here who like to play "Guess which way I'm going" and then give you the correct answer by indicating AFTER they have started (or in some cases completion of) their manoeuvre.

I award myself points for correct guesses.

Yes I disagree with the poster who said you shouldn't indicate if you are going straight over a roundabout. As someone above said, how do the people waiting to come on to the roundabout know that you are going straight over? You don't tend to watch the origins of each car coming round the roundabout, you just look where they appear to be going.

YADNBU It drives me mental too.

My neighbour gave me a lift the other day and she didn't signal once. Even when we were sitting at junctions and people didn't know whether to let us out or not because they didn't know what way we were turning. It just didn't seem to occur to her just how self-defeating it is. It's arrogant, inconsiderate, and dangerous. Drivers ought to be fined for it IMO

Let's not forget the drivers who forget their indicators are on for about 3 miles. Makes me all twitchy!

Yes, thats how I understand it more

While we are on the 'going straight on at a roundabout' thing, when you are going straight on at a roundabout and the approach has two lanes, you can use either lane can't you? It really annoys me because there is a roundabout near me that gets very busy in the mornings and to avoid having to sit in traffic on the approach, people go into the right hand lane, which is quieter, and then still turn left! Surely an accident waiting to happen?!

Pet hate of mine.

People say at a junction with a gormless expression and not indicator.

Makes me irrationally angry.

No indicator not notz

Not ffs!

Lack of indicating is my #1 pet hate with driving.

People who don't know how to indicate on/off roundabouts do give me 'the rage' (for all of 2 seconds because, ultimately, I can't change it and I can't be bothered to expend any more energy on a moron).

If you're going right, you indicate right on to the roundabout and indicate left once you've past the previous exit. Exit, not entry! (Had that one out with DH once. He acquiesced ).
If you're taking the first exit, indicate left.
If you're going straight over, you only indicate left after the previous exit to show you're coming off.

And those numpties that sit in the left lane to go right !!!

Drives me mad. So many drivers think it's only for 'proper' roads and don't bother on residential roads. I end up standing like a lemon, thinking, "well, the lack of indicators should mean s/he's going straight on and I can cross, but... Oh look, they're turning left without indicating, right in front of me".

When people do have their indicator on, sometimes it's even the wrong one. That was fun.

In fact I have been known to lean over and indicate for dh when he's driving, when it's clear he's not going to

Me too. I sometimes use the horn when he's driving too. He hates that. Makes me laugh!

Yes I indicate for DH sometimes. His respond is ' do you want to drive? '

Posted about this before but there's a roundabout near me that's lethal. On approach there are two lanes, one has a left hand arrow only, the other has a straight on and right hand arrow. People use the left hand arrow/lane for the second exit (situated about 11 on a clock)
The amount of near misses I've had and seen is horrendous