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AIBU to ask you to STOP

392 replies

Dawndonnaagain · 03/04/2016 14:38

using the term 'autistics'. Four fucking times this weekend on different threads. You mean person with autism, people with autism, child with autism. Autistics is not shorthand for any of those. Pack it in.
Angry

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raininginspringtime · 03/04/2016 16:56

But then it's them being dismissive and marginalising that is the source of the problem.

PolterGoose · 03/04/2016 17:01

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 03/04/2016 17:01

No prob dawn. I mean when i say something about my autism and get told "my child has autism and you shouldnt say that"

TaraCarter · 03/04/2016 17:02

Dawn I think Beyond means the phenomenon when someone is self-referring as autistic/an aspie and gets jumped on by a load of irate parents without any ASD themselves for not using person-first language, every (wo)man jack of them desperate to prove their non-disabilist credentials.

TaraCarter · 03/04/2016 17:06

Cross-post. Not quite right, then!

NewYearNewToads · 03/04/2016 17:07

Why was my post at 15:14:56 deleted? Confused I can't remember what I said but I'm pretty sure I didn't break any talk guidelines.

Dawndonnaagain · 03/04/2016 17:10

Beyond and Tara thank you. Really didn't get it, sorry!

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BeccaMumsnet · 03/04/2016 17:12

Hi Toads - it was quoting a post we had deleted for containing multiple words we don't allow on Mumsnet. We can change the message over to "withdrawn" to reflect this.

bearbehind · 03/04/2016 17:14

As somene else said, you seem to have moved the goal posts in terms of what offends you OP.

I can see that calling any group 'the' autistics would cause offence but don't see the issue with calling the same group 'autistics'

As you are now saying it's the marginalising and use of the term 'the' or 'an' could you provide examples within the 4 threads you have quoted in the OP as ive never seen this used and judging by the responses, others haven't either.

NewYearNewToads · 03/04/2016 17:15

I see.

However it now seems to have un-deleted itself Grin

NewYearNewToads · 03/04/2016 17:16

And now it says withdrawn at my request Grin

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 03/04/2016 17:31

Is anyone else having trouble getting theirs posts here to, umm, post?

shazzarooney99 · 03/04/2016 17:33

Surely for me the most important thing is that the word is being spread about autism.

BeccaMumsnet · 03/04/2016 17:41

I am! We're looking into it. Apologies everyone.

(hopefully I can post this)

Sirzy · 03/04/2016 17:42

Yes beyond I tried 3 times and it didn't work. Will try again now..:

What annoys me more than the words used is when people act as if autism is some sort of taboo or something to be ashamed of. When a nurse whispered "well because of his Autism" I may have said slightly too loudly "what about his autism?" which wasn't even an issue in that situation anyway!

GreatFuckability · 03/04/2016 17:43

I hate 'my child is ASD' or 'my child is special needs'. That grips my shit.

PhilPhilConnors · 03/04/2016 17:45

I find the taboo weird.
I also find it weird that so many people would rather go down the route of thinking the parents are being dramatic liars than believing the diagnosed child has autism. I find this shocking, and upsetting when I'm on the receiving end of it.

Thorium23 · 03/04/2016 17:46

Personally I'm happy to be lumped in together with a group called 'autistics'. Since my diagnosis it's actually the only time I've ever felt that I'm part of a group and it's helped relieve the sense of isolation.

PhilPhilConnors · 03/04/2016 17:47

Great, I've written my child is ASD once or twice, but always meant to post my child has ASD, so if I see it I always assume it's a typo.

shazzarooney99 · 03/04/2016 17:50

Sirzy, that made me laugh this happeed to us at the hospital not so long ago, the nurse whispered to me, is he specail needs luv.

KondosSecretJunkRoom · 03/04/2016 17:53

I wish someone would address the asthma analogy. I consider myself an asthmatic and, er, fellow wheezers as asthmatics. And as a pp pointed out it is similar in that there is a range in severity and in how it impacts your life.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 03/04/2016 17:55

I hear you.

I wouldn't mind someone saying DD is autistic.

I wouldn't love it if someone called her AN autistic though.

BlondieLoxie · 03/04/2016 18:08

You need to get over yourself OP

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 03/04/2016 18:10

Pot kettle

GreatFuckability · 03/04/2016 18:22

Phil....i cant see how repeatedly typing IS for HAS happens really. And I know people who say it IRL, so I think whilst it might just be a slip sometimes as you say, often people think that is an acceptable thing. No one IS their disability. Their disability I part of them, sure, but its not all they are and it just grates on me. My children are not ASD, they are people who have ASD.