To put dd (4) reins again..,

[Kiddiewinks2008]

DD 4 has run out in the road twice in 2 days- she won't hold hands and is testing boundaries to the extreme. we have tried green cross code, explaining and resorted to getting angry when she ran off as it frightened me.
Anyway, am thinking of re-instating the little rucksack with the handle (looks like a lead unfortunately) as she just isnt listening.
Aibu- am a bit stuck- ds never left my side so dont know how to handle this. We do all go through a stop, look both ways etc routine but she just runs off.
Help!

Roobix I woulden't allow your dd out with him, if he is not going to use reins on her.

I would use the reins. I would probably at least threaten to use them on a child of any age if they kept on running out in the road and couldn't be trusted.

I've been very lucky in this regard. Ds1 would bolt along the road and out of sight, so I did use reins on him. Later on, I would tell him off if he ran out of sight, and make him hold my hand for the rest of the journey. He would scream the whole way home sometimes. We played the stop and go game to practice, and he soon learnt that he had to stop at corners and roads. If he didn't, I would make him hold hands again.
Ds2 has SN and luckily has never had the desire to run off. He loves to hold my hand. He hates it when it takes me a second to put my keys in my bag, as he wants to hold my hand.

It can also be a safety issue when at the shops, as they could wander off whilst you're busy paying. I'll never forget little James Bulger. :(

I just want to say I think children in reins always look really cute - like dear little human pets. (However, I'm not a parent and have no actual experience to offer in terms of your question.)

acasual mine used to pretend to be pet doggies and I was taking them for a walk .

If generally she has no problems understanding I'd reward loads and if happens again major discipline!!

My dd would bolt when she was with her dad as he chased her and made it seem like a game 😡 But with me she walked nicely. He could never see why.

It wasn't until she saw a school friend get hit by a car outside her school - he legged it out the gate, slipped on wet leaves and went straight under a moving car - resulting in a broken pelvis and multiple injuries- that she (and her entire class) suddenly learned road safety. I still go cold remembering it.

He was 5 when it happened.

Yanbu, my previously sensible 3yo legged it in the supermarket the other day. Next time he went to the park be was in his back pack.

Not worth the risk.

I wouldn't. My 5 year old could have got out of reins in 2 seconds flat at 4 years old. Those rucksack reins are just a tiny clip so they can just undo and scarper

YANBU. Safety first.

I would get proper baby reins and make it clear they are baby reins. Give a warning, if still messing about or if runs into road put baby reins on until they can 'behave like a big girl/boy'.

So YADNBU

Especially since baby reins cannot be undone by the child. I would take an embarrassed child over one under a car any time if she's a bolter.

Exactly paxillin and its a really good incentive to just behave without them.

Artandco - I think that's why a lot of us are suggesting "baby reins".

Worked well for my ds - he knew they were "for babies" and the threat of having to wear them, meant enough that he would come to my side when asked. When I needed to though, he wouldn't have been able to get out of them.

Screw what anyone else thinks. Safety first. You dont need permission to be a parent.

I will still be using them at 4yo!
apologies for jacking your thread, I posted last week but had little response..my 3yo fetches them from the hallway whenever we go out so appears to have no problem with them but then he slips them off his shoulders lets them drop to floor and steps out of them!. friend has suggested the old leather type as the straps cross at the back? any suggestions?

I hope those who tell their kids they are just for babies also educate their kids not to judge any older kids they see wearing them.

Nope, again those baby reins mine would both Houdini style out if they didn't want them on. Far more dangerous

Well yes but it would be them every 2 seconds climbing out or unclipping, so it would be easier to just hold hands as that's what I would have to do anyway. Or are their arms supposed to be bound also?
Sorry but mine have never been restrained by reins so would hate that and resist. I'm assuming many at 4 years even if they wore reins at 1-2 years would also resist.

For anyone reading this wanting reins for sn or older children look at kids ski harnesses on Amazon, a fraction of the price of the special needs specific ones.

My ds is 4 and the size of a 7 year old and is on reins whenever we go out as he has no concept of danger. He has autism and learning disabilities.

Absolutely! Why wouldn't you?! Or a buggy

Hi you may be able to help . I’m involved supporting a friend with an autistic spectrum / Dyspraxic teenager . They use reins , quite special needs style ones via the occupational therapist . Long story cut short said friend approached another company who are working on fun bright designs , pirate skulls , nice colours , camouflage. They look more like a nice bit of clothing . Anyway bottom line they are looking into producing baby reins in larger sizes for older children . Starting to product test samples etc . Seeing if both for special needs and just for regular kids In busy times and now with social distancing if a market exists for this kind of a safety product . I’m just contacting anyone for advice who’s expressed interest over the years in baby reins in larger sizes or for older children. Would be very pleased to hear any feedback.