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Neighbour complaining about jumparoo

307 replies

SeaLeaf · 26/03/2016 08:31

We live in a first floor apartment. Downstairs neighbour is complaining about 'thumping' noise when baby goes in jumparoo! I've put a foam mat under it and tried moving it to other rooms but she still complains! We have wood floors everywhere and I prefer to keep it in kitchen so I can cook!

He's 7months and uses it for about 30mins at a time, usually 7am, 9am, 1pm, 3pm, 6pm.

I feel she should put up with it, you can't expect silence in a building with families and what will happen when he's older and starts running and jumping?
Why should he be denied playtime in his favourite toy?

What do others think?

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CaffeineBomb · 27/03/2016 07:52

Why bother asking then. Part of being a parent is actually playing with your baby I still maintain that 2.5 hours is way too much and part of having a baby is accepting that sometimes the tidying up gets done when baby is in bed. I feel sorry for your neighbour why should they have to put up with your noise? My HV told me to avoid jumperoos althogether because they are so bad for the hips we did have one but used it very infrequently. You will find that HV often give conflicting advice so do a bit of research. Also when she recommended 30 minutes did she realise you'd leaving your baby in it for 2.5 hours

If you find the baby too uncomfortable in a sling you are wearing the wrong type, stretchy wraps don't last that long generally. You say he's too old to be strapped to you all day but he's too young to be left in a jumperoos for 2.5 hours imo.

SeaLeaf · 27/03/2016 08:11

The 2.5hours isn't all in one go, it's the total of several 30-min bouncing sessions over course of day.

I don't agree with leaving a baby to cry. And it's also important to keep house clean and hygienic. If I played with him all day when am I supposed to clean, do laundry and make his weaning foods?

Maybe I am BU to use a jumparoo in a flat, but seriously what am I supposed to do when he starts walking, running, jumping, banging toys on the floor? How do others manage? (Genuine question!)

I wonder if part of the noise she's hearing is him drumming his heels on his mat when I change him or when he plays in baby gym. I put a folded towel under his feet but he still drums heels constantly.

Hmm that a noise complaint could be taken seriously when it's a 7-month baby (with tiny feet and no shoes) making the noise. The apartments are private rentals not council.

I will look into it being bad for hips though, thanks for the info

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kali110 · 27/03/2016 08:11

You don't see how bad it can be?
The amount of people on here who are telling you, yet you still can't?
Ya massively unreasonable.
I'd try to sort it now, as someone mentioned above, incase the neighbour decides to exact revenge.
She may like to play music up till 11pm...

RidersOnTheStorm · 27/03/2016 08:31

We are private landlords and our current tenants are causing a noise nuisance for their neighbours (loud music at night) and the neighbours keep complaining to us, rightly so. We have issued them with a warning letter and if they don't keep it down we will evict them.

NerrSnerr · 27/03/2016 08:32

2.5 hours a day is a long time for cleaning and cooking. How dirty can a flat get?

When our daughter was that age my husband cleaned the kitchen when I was putting her to bed. I'd put the washing on in the day and hang it up when she napped. I did cooking with her in the high chair. I also bulk froze meals for her at the weekend when my husband could have her. If you're a single parent I see that it could be tricky, I would consider a sling?

FeckOfffCup · 27/03/2016 08:34

But I can't be constantly playing with him- I need to get on with housework, laundry, cooking, taking a shower etc.

Leave the housework till he has a nap or goes to bed. Surely you don't put him in the jumperoo in the kitchen and go and have a shower? Those things can tip over easily, I wouldn't leave him in it unsupervised. And they are not great for the baby's hips. It certainly doesn't look comfy, I wouldn't like to be dangling in one of them for half an hour.

You are too heavily reliant on this thing and you just need to make small changes to your routine.

Saying, "I still think she should put up with it" is an utterly ridiculous and selfish thing to say. Your poor neighbour.

pudcat · 27/03/2016 08:38

Your baby is probably crying a lot because he is worn out and aching.

53rdAndBird · 27/03/2016 08:41

but seriously what am I supposed to do when he starts walking, running, jumping, banging toys on the floor? How do others manage? (Genuine question!)

We were moving anyway, so made a point of only looking for ground-floor flats or houses. But honestly I think we'd have moved for that alone anyway once ours got to toddler age. If you're stuck with wooden floors in a place without great soundproofing, you either have to be unfair on your child (by constantly shushing/stopping them from normal play) or unfair on your neighbours, and neither are great.

AnotherTimeMaybe · 27/03/2016 08:44

OP how many hours does he sleep in the day? At this age it should be around 4. So after napping, walks outside, yoga, other activities , interaction with you, breakfast last dinner, he still does 2,5 hours in the jumberoo? How? It doesn't add up

Is he napping in the pram? Maybe you should get him to nap at home to give both your neighbor and yourself a break ?

kali110 · 27/03/2016 08:45

feck yes that comment really annoyed me and i don't even know the op Confused
Lets hope op don't get a bad neighbor upstairs....
It's not hard to be considerate is it?
The neighbour didn't have a child.
Myneighbour is elderly and had a fall recently so is sleeping downstairs for a few months.
I go watch tv at night upstairs at 9pm now so i don't keep her awake.
I don't have to, but i do because she's a good neighbour and it will only be for a few months.

StitchesInTime · 27/03/2016 08:57

Seriously, ask neighbour if you can listen to the noise before dismissing her complaints. It's clearly loud and/or repetitive enough to bother her if she's gone to the trouble of complaining to you. I can imagine a continual thud thud thud from a bouncing baby being more annoying than normal walking / running noise.

And as for a noise complaint could be taken seriously when it's a 7-month baby (with tiny feet and no shoes) making the noise - if we were talking about a baby crying, I'd agree with you. But a frequent repetitive jumping on neighbours ceiling is a different thing altogether, and environmental health may well agree with your neighbour if things get to the stage where she makes an official complaint.

CamboricumMinor · 27/03/2016 09:01

Sealeaf you should go downstairs and listen to the noise. As for when he starts walking, soft slippers and no shoes in the house. As far as banging toys on the floor goes, well buy him soft toys not hard plastic or wooden ones. You have to adapt to living in a flat and consider your neighbours. Why not get a large soft rug for the floor? It's not much fun for toddlers to sit on a cold, hard floor anyway.

SeaLeaf · 27/03/2016 09:19

He has 3x30min naps in the day and will only nap on me or in pram so I can't get on with things.

We have rugs on all the floors apart from kitchen/bathrooms.

I'll pop down this afternoon and ask to listen to the noise!

She used to complain about him screaming in night when he was tiny and had colic. I appreciate it's annoying when a baby screams for hours but there's not much you can do apart from earplugs.

I'm surprised you think babies in flats must only have soft noiseless toys. Babies like to bang things and make noise, it's part of learning.

I'm very considerate about other noise, we don't have TV or music on loudly and always walk softly. But when it comes to my baby having fun and exercise I'm naturally going to prioritise him over neighbour. Likewise I don't expect my upstairs neighbors to keep their children quiet during the day.

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PestilentialCat · 27/03/2016 09:24

Yes babies like to bang things & make noise, but they don't have to do it at home - my toddler DS loved glueing & sticking with glitter but I never had glitter at home awful stuff - he did it at playgroup.

ilovesooty · 27/03/2016 09:26

Can't you take him out to a group or something for his noisy learning experience? You sound incredibly inconsiderate.

NerrSnerr · 27/03/2016 09:26

Do you go to baby groups in the day? Do you have a partner who can help with housework and cooking in the evenings or days off?

TheCaptainsCat · 27/03/2016 09:27

I imagine it will be deafening TBH. Our jumperoo is on wood floor in our 1st floor living room and it is very loud on the ground floor. In fact, I have such a vigorous jumper that the noise sometimes sets our next door neighbours' dogs off barking! I wouldn't dream of using at 7am for this reason. I would still use it in the middle of the day, but only for 5ish mins, so many blocks of 30 mins is really longer than they should spend being suspended at the hips anyway.

CamboricumMinor · 27/03/2016 09:33

Sealeaf they can play with noisy toys at parent and child groups or playgroups, it doesn't have to be at home.

My DD plays the drums. We don't have a drum kit at home because of the noise, instead she plays at school x3 a week in their lovely soundproofed rooms. I play the violin and would love to use the time I have in the morning but my neighbours don't want to hear it at 7am, therefore I play in the evenings. They are out one night a week and I save my long session for when they are out. It's called being a good neighbour.

FeckOfffCup · 27/03/2016 09:38

But when it comes to my baby having fun and exercise I'm naturally going to prioritise him over neighbour.

Hmm fgs, can you not hear how you sound?
The jumperoo isn't for your baby's benefit, it's for your benefit, so you can 'get stuff done'
Your baby can have plenty of stimulation, exercise and fun without being plonked in a jumperoo at 7am for half an hour every morning and then 4 more half an hour sessions through the day. You are being completely selfish and inconsiderate. Why 7am? What needs doing so urgently first thing in the morning?

Time to change your expectations of house being immaculate, do quick meals etc. Spend more time with your baby. It's wrong of your neighbour to complain about crying because you can't do anything about that, and yes toddlers thump about a bit during the day - you can't really avoid that.

But half an hour of banging every morning first thing is something you can do something about, and massively unreasonable to just expect your neighbour to put up with.

fourage · 27/03/2016 09:44

Strange how generations of babies survived and mothers managed housework without a jumperoo.

Notonthestairs · 27/03/2016 09:44

Listen to the noise and make some adjustments to your routine. And yes he will get more noisy as he gets older but if you built up a good relationship with your neighbour it will be easier to manage. Think ahead, I am presuming you want to live there for a while.

Redglitter · 27/03/2016 09:46

My neighbour in my last flat had wooden flooring. It was like having a fairy elephant living upstairs

She was in my flat one day when her OH & wee boy came home. She was absolutely horrified at the noise. They put carpets down the next week

mummymeister · 27/03/2016 09:50

Sealeaf you need to take a reality check about your PFB,

Env health investigate noise nuisances from ALL premises not just ones that are council owned. or do you think its only council tenants not private ones that make a noise?

whether its a 7 month old baby banging on the floor for 2.5 hours a day or a teenager with loud music or a diy enthusiast at it at all hours, or a loud fan from a restaurant a statutory noise nuisance is still just that. and your local council has a duty in law to investigate all noise complaints thoroughly.

What can you do? pay for carpet. thick carpet with thick underlay in every room that the jumperoo is used. you are choosing to let your child do this so you not your landlord should take responsibility for abating the nuisance.

you cant just turn round to your neighbours and say my pfb trumps anything that you expect from your life because he is in fact the most important person in the world. he may be that to you and rightly so but honestly just wait until some inconsiderate twat moves into the flat above and plays their music at 11pm keeping your pfb awake. then perhaps you will realise how bloody annoying neighbours like you are.

How will you feel if your neighbour is so hacked off that they start waiting for your pfb to go to bed and then turn the music on really really loud. would that get on your nerves or would you just suck it up as part of being in a flat.

I suggest you move.

mixedfruitlyf · 27/03/2016 09:52

I've never owned a jumperoo and managed to get house work done

I've missed the point of the thread Grin

insancerre · 27/03/2016 10:00

Mixedfruitlyf
My thoughts exactly!
Mine are 26 and 19 and I used a pram and a bouncer when study were tiny, then I put them on the floor
When they started to be mobile I put them in the playpen

Op, its perfectly OK to leave a baby to cry for a short while
They do need to be able to self soothe and to entertain themselves

I'm not seeing what housework you have to do in a flat