people who talk in the quiet carriage should be swiftly put or death - NOT lighthearted

[HeadTilt]

Right?

There is no excuse.

Basic exchanges of information - fine.

Chat about that Thai restaurant you went to three years ago - swift, merciless death.

Need a quick verdict to see if I can a save the last hour of my journey.

I often have fantasies of the Harry Potter dementors swooping in and sucking out the soul of anyone who dares speak in the quiet carriage.

In my fantasy I then give them a high five as they glide away, work done.

Yes, crying. I think she might be a bit over dramatic. She also won't STFU when announcements come on about what is happening. Everyone happy to shush her now!

YABU - it's the quiet carriage, not the silent carriage!

YANBU. I book into the quiet carriage because I don't want to have to listen to other people banging on. Quiet and minimal talking is OK, but I don't want to have to listen to other people's conversations, which is why I book the quiet coach.

Why do the British find it so hard to tell people to not use their phone in the quiet coach? I think a lot of people do get into that coach without realising it is the quiet one, they really need bigger and better signs (on the back of every chair).

I am all in favour of the STFU carriage and am going to tweet Branson now

GingerMerkin definitely. I quite like those poles that they use in Japan to shove more passengers on the train to turf the jabbering offenders off.
HeadTilt hope you are on the move, how much further do you have to go?

Trains used to be so much better in the old days, the slam door trains were so loud you couldn't hear fuck. I used to able to sleep occasionally. Now I will never sleep unless pissed.

How about a massive dart gun (the ones they use to make elephants go to sleep). Foghorn and her friends chatter - you pull off wall, stand, aim and fire. She slumps forward onto her Metro and sleeps heavily for the rest of the journey. You read book in peace. I think killing is a bit over the top to be honest.

Ejector seats. That's what is needed. Send the noisy bastards out of the carriage at speed.

Some excellent ideas here.

mild electric charges running through the seats. Voice activated, obviously.

YANBU I've actually started to be very un-British and tell them off directly instead of silently seething.

Last time I did Euston to Manchester the woman in front of me actually allowed her phone to ring and conducted an unbearably tedious conversation, littered with that cringy kind of management speak...until I kicked her chair really hard and reminded her that she was in the quiet carriage. Not so much as a squeak from her after that.

Yanbu op quiet carriage should be renamed "carriage for people who have NOT swallowed a fucking loud hailer"

YABU, as you can't specify NOT to be in the quiet carriage when booking tickets online. We travelled from London to Edinburgh last summer. Six hours on a train with a 5yo and 7yo, a long journey involving 2 tube trips to start with heaps of luggage and carseats, then when we hopped on the train I saw we were in the quiet carriage sob . I spent the entire journey shushing my children, but it's unreasonable to ask a 5yo to remain completely silent for 6 hrs especially a chatterbox like mine who can talk underwater I played card games with them, did colouring in, encouraged them to use their kindles, and felt guilty the whole time that we were making too much noise, which was crazy as it any other carriage I would have been praising them for their exceptionally good behaviour.

YANBU. I'm still seething from a journey two years ago where two men were talking very loudly in the quiet carriage. When I politely asked them to turn in down, their very adult reaction was to start engaging other commuters in loud conversation, while darting sarky glances, with the express purpose of driving me mad. Fucking bullies.

Quiet means quiet. No loud chat of any kind is tolerated.

YABU I travel regularly to London via Virgin, I can't choose and sometimes I end up in the quiet carriage, not by my choice!
I take phone calls in the corridor
If I'm with a colleague we talk quietly ( as long as I can hear them)
I am expected to work during train journeys too, some of that may involve speech

Agreed. Tbh unless I'm making noise too I expect utter silence at all times in life.

I was in a quiet carriage once and could hear this continuous scraping noise - not overly loud but irritating. Turns out to be a woman filing her nails - man asked her to STFU and she defiantly did the last couple of nails, then was silent

YANBU
I had some guy behind me talking to his equally drippy "girlfriend" (he hadn't even met her) on loudspeaker.

I think people should be able to specify non quiet carriage. They should also ban under 16s from the quiet carriage. Maybe the quiet area needs to be half a carriage if not many people want it. I am sure the area could be partitioned somehow.

YANBU OP

And why do people get so offended that some people don't like noise. We are surrounded by noise all day every day. Every cafe, pub, whatever has music blaring and people shouting at each other. I can't stand it.

Railway companies should not book under 18s into a quiet carriage. There needs to be an option for the noisey carriage.

Headtilt, YANBU. I used to do a long-ish commute, leaving home at 5:30 am. My fellow Proper Commuters on the 6am train all wanted much the same as I did: peace and quiet to snooze/read the paper/finish marking. One day, a young woman spent the entire journey on her mobile, loudly giving a blow-by-blow account of her plans for the day. (Many of which seemed to involve how to ensure she would have unrestricted access to the photocopier.) She was totally impervious to the collective glares of the Proper Commuters. When she got off the train, she was still yakking into her phone. She slightly stumbled on the step and dropped her phone in the gap between train and track. A cheer rose up from the Proper Commuters and one was heard to murmur, "There is a God and He is just."

Last time i booked a quiet carriage, there were 8 guys with beer on their way to the rugby. It wasn't quiet.

I was on the way to see my dying brother in hospital. I cried the whole way. Quietly.

floppy that's amazing. I do think we silent types should speak up more and tell people to shut up as some people might just miss the numerous signs and announcements telling them to shut up, so they certainly wont grasp a nuanced glare!

I am so loving all the dedicated Quiet Coach travellers in this thread. A great support group against the usual MN response of "I hate the Quiet Coach. You're all up yourselves."

I hope you got home HeadTilt I heard there were huge delays on the West Coast line yesterday with a freight train - I used to live near Warrington, and there were times when the West Coast line was just awful.

Clopysow -

The rest of this thread has been excellent. OP, are you off the train now? Did Foghorn stop crying? (She sounds really annoying.)

Love the idea of a STFU carriage with voice-activated electric shocks...