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To hate the word "pudding?"

446 replies

Misswrite89 · 23/03/2016 16:53

I hate it when people use the word pudding instead of dessert. AIBU?

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BunnyTyler · 24/03/2016 18:16

To be honest Notdead, as with everything I don't think there's particular 'rights' & 'wrongs' anymore - everything's evolved into a mish mash of different things.

My mum used to do silver service waitressing when me and my sister were little, so we always used to lay the table properly on special occasions (Xmas dinner etc).

Also always steam the cutlery before laying the table if doing it properly!

derxa · 24/03/2016 18:22

and "property" instead of "house". My pet hate.

Yseulte · 24/03/2016 18:40

It's nearly as bad as 'supper'

Pardon me while I eat dessert for my dinner in the lounge with a serviette.

MsBojangles · 24/03/2016 18:42

Awww, 'scent' reminds me of my old Granny Betty and 'dear' for expensive.

KERALA1 · 24/03/2016 18:57

Dessert, toilet, pardon, settee, serviette all lower middle class aspirant words.

Pudding, loo, what/sorry, napkin are working / upper class confident in yourself words.

Read jolly cooper at an impressionable age.

Am dual heritage personally. I do wince when mil tries to teach Dc the former as being "right". I can imagine my now deceased posh granny shuddering.

CleverPlansAndSecretTricks · 24/03/2016 18:58

Theredjellybean

Mirror? Or glass?

Grin
Floggingmolly · 24/03/2016 19:00

Looking glass sounds so terribly affected. More than all the others, for some reason.

CleverPlansAndSecretTricks · 24/03/2016 19:04

Interestingly all the "posher" versions are much less global. If you are not in the uk you usually need to switch to toilet, dessert and even "sparkling" water (not fizzy water) if you want to be understood.

SukeyTakeItOffAgain · 24/03/2016 19:06

Pud.

And we set the table in our house. Is that wrong? And we wash up, not do the dishes. Am I wrong?

Supper always reminds me of the public schoolboys I encountered at university. I remember one of them asking during "supper" on the first night there which school I'd been to on. "Radyr Comp"* I said, in genuine innocence. He looked startled at encountering someone from the state sector :o

*Names have been changed.

sleeponeday · 24/03/2016 19:10

Unless you are called Alice the word's mirror, agreed.

I always say "Nice to meet you" when I am introduced to someone, too. Remember hearing that was incredibly naff when all the fuss about the Middletons came out. Apparently you are meant to say, "How d'you do," if posh. But I am not posh, so if I said it would be pretending and surely that's infinitely naffer than just being who you are?

I was always brought up to say, 'what?' and not 'pardon'. But DS is constantly told off at school, so I've compromised on, "Sorry?" or "Excuse me?" for him and me, now, as 'what' can offend it seems, and I'd rather not upset anyone avoidably - surely that's at the heart of good manners?

sleeponeday · 24/03/2016 19:11

Think "do the dishes" is American, isn't it? I thought most Brits say washing up for plates, while washing up in the States means hands etc I think.

Trooperslane · 24/03/2016 19:15

It's so twee.

Criiiiingggeeee

RhombusRiley · 24/03/2016 19:17

Pudding here, Yorkshire working class pudding. I don't have a strong accent, though I come from there, but if I see "pudding" written down I always hear it in a gruff Yorkshire accent.

"Dessert" sounds to me like someone trying to be posh. "Supper" makes me want to stick forks in my eyes. I also find "pud" annoying. "Pud" is said by people who are trying to be excruciatingly jolly.

"Sweet" also vile! However accept "afters" and "seconds" are OK

loraflora · 24/03/2016 19:18

I use 'pudding'. I come from a working class background. I just asked DH what his family used when growing up (they were lower middle class aspirant) and he said 'dessert' but he calls it pudding these days.

TelephoneIgnoringMachine · 24/03/2016 19:22

DH's family say "Side the pots" when they mean clear/wash up. Weird.

Schwabischeweihnachtskanne · 24/03/2016 19:26

BadgerCrossing YES EXACTLY - sorry for shouting but that is exactly what I was saying - she says "pudding" but she also uses "serviette rings" - she is neither working class nor posh but she uses the word pudding, and she is a grown woman who doesn't say she is going to the toilet OR going to the loo, she says she is going to "wee"...

Its an infantile term to me, not class related - people who are using very lower middle class vocabulary use pudding in a babyish way - they talk about things being "comfy" and going to " do a wee" and they eat "pudding" because they talk like 3 year olds,(when in a domestic setting) not because they belong to a certain class!

KERALA1 · 24/03/2016 19:27

Class meanderings aside I actually love the word pudding. Whats not to like? Very satisfying word. There are many words I detest pudding is definitely not one of them!

(cuppa, hubby and belly are on my cringe list).

And agree with the upper class words being less international. Host many paying foreign teenagers who are all blank when I use the word "loo" no matter how good their English.

flightywoman · 24/03/2016 19:38

Oh Kerala, I thought I was the only one who hated belly! I just can't stand it!

Schwabischeweihnachtskanne · 24/03/2016 19:42

Kerala isn't that because the word "loo" is informal / slang, therefore not taught at school?

Schwabischeweihnachtskanne · 24/03/2016 19:48

Loo won't be understood elsewhere in the English speaking world either I don't think - I remember saying I was going to the loo when in Australia, aged 18, staying with a new Australian friend who had never been to the UK, and being laughed at hysterically and teased unremittingly for it...

Having spent a lot of my adult life in various countries outside the UK, the word has largely fallen out of my active vocabulary and I am not 100% sure my kids would know what it meant... Toilet may be non U but it is a far more practical word because it is widely used internationally... As is WC on public toilet doors oddly...

eleven59 · 24/03/2016 19:49

Who cares? Really..

mathanxiety · 24/03/2016 19:49

I always said pudding as a child in Ireland, but about the time I started calling my mother mum I switched over to dessert. I live in the US, where pudding is a specific dessert item, a set custard, usually vanilla or chocolate flavoured, possibly butterscotch or other flavours. You can have pudding for dessert, iyswim. This is an interesting contrast to the concept of dessert as a specific type of pudding.

My DCs were completely bamboozled by black and white pudding. Even though they were offered it for breakfast in Dublin, I suspect they were expecting something different.

YY to spoon and fork horizontally across the top of the place setting, topping and tailing-wise.

Pudding sounds childish and twee. [ScarletForYa] - and Schwabischeweihnachtskanne.
I agree with that. At this point of my life it smacks of nursery-talk.

Snickering a little at the people casting around for a theory to explain why the unwashed also say pudding. It's so nice to be Irish.

And it's the couch, in the sitting room. My American exMIL called it the Davenport, and it was in the parlour.

TheKitchenWitch · 24/03/2016 19:50

I think pudding is clearly something which is served for dessert. Rice, bread, sticky toffee, etc etc. If you offered me pudding and then put down ice cream or cake, I'd think you very strange.
You can also have savoury puddings - steak and kidney, yorkshire etc which makes is quite clear that a pudding is a type of dish.
"Dessert" just means the sweet bit at the end of a meal. I've never seen or heard any other definition of it.

JessieMcJessie · 24/03/2016 19:58

'Comfy' is a juvenile word, really? I would say it was informal register but not totally inappropriate for an adult in the right context.

I am Scottish and lower middle class background. In our house it went breakfast, lunch, tea if before 6.30, dinner if after that time (or on Sunday). "Supper" is a funny one as it has two very distinct but extremely important meanings- the snack like meal of toast, hot chocolate or a little sandwich eaten just before bed if you'd had an early tea, or "the word added to the description of a dish in a takeaway to denote that it comes deep fried and with chips"- the classic being fish supper but see also sausage supper, white pudding supper, haggis supper, pizza supper (I kid you not).

I was therefore quite confused the first time I was invited "round for supper" by a posh English bloke as it sounded like a fairly crude come-on!

Interestingly nobody in Scotland really says "dinner" for lunch, but we do still talk about "school dinners" e.g. "are you having a school dinner for your lunch today?".

We said both pudding and dessert interchangeably, probably slight bias towards pudding if it was a heavy one like rice, semolina or Eve's pudding.

SenecaFalls · 24/03/2016 20:01

Toilet may be non U but it is a far more practical word because it is widely used internationally

But not in the US. We Americans have an aversion to saying "toilet." We use it only when absolutely necessary and only to refer to the actual fixture, not to the room which houses it. Smile