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For hoping ds will find a friend who doesn't abuse him

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MissesBloom · 21/03/2016 14:45

Not sure if my expectations are too high here.

Ds is 3 and a half yrs old. He's always been a chilled out child, and I'm very lucky as he's very happy to listen to me or other grown ups and behaves really well. Even during the 'terrible twos' he was a breeze (not trying to be braggy but want to explain how he is). Never been a biter or one for hitting, and due to this doesn't really get how to stick up for himself.

My issue is that I struggle to find him friends of his own who aren't really really unpleasant to him. At present he goes to nursery and as he started later in the year than everyone else (and is also the youngest) we found that most mums already had a clique formed and we weren't invited to join it. The odd mums speak to me and I try to keep communication going with everyone as I want my ds to get to know the other kids too.

Anyway he has a couple of friends outside school...one of whom is awful to ds. I've tried giving her the benefit of the doubt and seeing if her behavior will change but it never does. She loves to see ds at first (talks about him all week) then about 20 mins into our play dates she starts to be mean. It will involve taking food/drinks off of him (despite him happily sharing them anyway) and if her mum intervenes she has a meltdown. The last time this happened the girls mum took my sons drink away from him to give to her dd Shock and he was left drink less! I was obviously livid and asked for it back by which time she'd drunk the lot. I ended up taking him home in tears as everything he has she takes away and finishes. She pulls him off of anything he's playing with. Expects him to share all of his toys (and I encourage him to) but then won't give them back or share hers when he goes over to theirs. Unsure if this is normal behaviour for a 3 and a half yr old?

Have now started talking to another mum at school and her dd seems to have taken a liking to my ds. Seen her a couple of times and all was fine until today she decided she didn't like ds. Didn't want him to come and play near her and she refused to let him him play in certain parts of the little paved area we were talking in. Ds doesn't really understand all of it. He just stands there blankly not knowing what to do. The girl then decides to tell him she doesn't like him and he can't talk to her or look at her brother!

This seems to happen with a lot of kids he plays with. Mostly the girls. No idea why they seem lovely then out of nowhere just start being mean. All ds wants is to play with another child without it turning nasty. He's been dragged off of toys in soft play, bitten, smacked, pushed, screamed at and excluded in the most cruel ways at times. It doesn't help that ds is quite small too.

My question is whether or not this is normal for kids of this age and I've just been lucky? I would never allow my ds to hit/punch/kick/exclude or be mean and would expect him to apologise if he did.

Do they get better when they get older? Is it just a girl behaviour? All the mums say it's because "dd is a girl and this is what you get with girls" but I can't believe that all girls behave this way?

Would you intervene in any way if the mums aren't doing so? I normally try not to get involved too much unless he's being physically hit. If this happens I pull the other children away (or mine) and say "no we don't hit" quite firmly.

I really don't know what to expect with this and if it's just how kids learn to 'toughen up'. Dh doesn't obviously see most of this and just thinks I should tell ds to hit back Hmm whilst I don't like this idea I don't really know how else he can take care of himself when I'm not there

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MissesBloom · 22/03/2016 21:05

Yep school nursery and it's very lax. They don't seem overly helpful and seem to drip feed info to me. I hate having to ask anything about how he's gotten on or if I need advice from them. They never seem to know anyway. He's summer born and he started later in the year than most of the other kids so I feel he's at a disadvantage because of this.

The older boys seem ok it's just one girl who seems to like him but then turns when she feels like it (she's quite a bit older)

It's more his outside friends to be honest. I was sort of hoping school might open up a few friendships for him but I see now that's it's better to be more relaxed and just see what happens

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amarmai · 23/03/2016 16:06

maybe a better nursery too?

MissesBloom · 23/03/2016 18:05

I didn't realise it was that rubbish at first (had no experience in that area with him being my first). Have applied to some other schools hoping he gets a different one but it's slim pickings round here.

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witsender · 23/03/2016 19:45

Sorry, I didn't mean parents shouldn't intervene in those circumstances, I meant that reprimand might be a bit strong. I guess it is all subjective as to what that word means! Grin

MissesBloom · 23/03/2016 21:51

Yep get what you're saying. It needs to be at an appropriate level. I try to just be as clear as I can with my ds. If something was a serious no-no (as in hitting etc) it would be one very clear warning and then home if it carried on.
I am lucky that I can reason with ds and explain. I have always spoke to him clearly calmly and on his level and in return he listens to instructions (most of the time) and knows if he's stepped over a boundary. It's obviously a work in progress with most children. I just expect a parent to step in in some way if things get out of hand and find myself quite annoyed if they don't

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MissesBloom · 23/03/2016 21:51

Spoken*

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amarmai · 24/03/2016 12:24

op, from looking after my gs for years , IME there are almost no parents or cms or nannies who follow your rule re talk once re hitting and then go home if a 2nd happens. After watching my eldest son being bullied and beaten up daily at school ,i partly blame myself for using the same approach. It handicapped him as he beleived he was not allowed to defend himself when hit etc. Please reconsider this approach for your son's sake.

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