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AIBU?

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To think Sil's behaviour is astonishing

62 replies

MrsOlaf78 · 13/03/2016 08:48

My fil is terminally ill and mil has to take care of him as he's very poorly - dh and I help her as much as we can. But her daughter, my sil, still makes quite a lot of demands on her. She and her dh expect mil to come and take care of their children two days a week while she's a work (so fil is left alone all day in the house) and often calls mil at very short notice asking her to come over and look after her children.

A typical example was on Friday - my dh was at mil's house repairing her washing machine for her as fil isn't well enough to do these things anymore. Sil suddenly rang saying she had to go and pick her four year old from preschool but her one year old was asleep and she didn't want to wake her youngest so she asked mil to come over and look after the little one. So mil had to drop everything, drive twenty minutes to babysit and leave fil. Luckily dh was there to keep an eye on him.

It's so hard to watch mil being taken advantage of, we've stood by for a long time and watched it go on but recently as fil has deteriorated, we have gently suggested to mil that maybe she is doing quite a lot for sil but she gets very defensive and sticks up for her and acts like we are the ones being unreasonable. She won't listen to anything remotely negative about sil. Dh gets very upset about it and I must admit I find it staggeringly selfish but if Mil is seemingly happy to do it, I don't know what we can do. I think it's just the dynamics of their relationship - sil is overly dependent on mil and mil has always facilitated this so the pattern is too established. I need my mum lots too but I would like to think that I would know when to back off and sort things out myself. AIBU to be astonished that she can't do this even when her father is so ill.

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theycallmemellojello · 13/03/2016 12:26

On a more practical note, if you are worried about your MIL's exhaustion, the obvious solution is to offer to take care of FIL for a day so she can have a rest.

fusionconfusion · 13/03/2016 12:27

And interesting all the people saying someone being compassionate to someone in a shit situation is sticking their beak in and interfering. Clearly women taking care of their terminally ill partners don't deserve to be treated kindly and have other family members look out for them? They should just be treated like shit instead as, after all, they did offer...

theycallmemellojello · 13/03/2016 12:32

In fairness, fusion, the OP isn't suggesting that the MIL should do less caring or have more of a rest. She's suggesting that she spend the time she currently spends caring for her GCs caring for her DH (so that he's not left alone etc).

Jux · 13/03/2016 12:41

I do think it's your dh's business. He is son and brother, and certainly in my family I would expect an intervention from someone if I were being unreasonable.

fusionconfusion · 13/03/2016 12:54

Well yes I suppose that's true...

I think if MIL needs a break, the way to support her is to give her a break - and it sounds like OP and her husband do a lot of supporting in this way by taking on duties to support both PILs rather than support themselves.

Sounds like SIL isn't doing that sort of support work for the PILs, but rather adding to the load, which isn't good for anyone in the family at this difficult time.

MrsOlaf78 · 13/03/2016 13:13

Theycallme - I do want mil to have a break, we help her with that too as much as possible.

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MrsOlaf78 · 13/03/2016 13:15

Thank you fusion, am really just feeling genuine compassion for her and looking out for her. I have never had any intention of interfering or badmouthing in all the years I've witnessed sil's behaviour - I have just found it hard lately in these particular circumstances to understand how she can be like that.

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sonjadog · 13/03/2016 13:31

Have you asked your mil about if she needs a break and what sort of break that would be? I think there is a generational difference here. My own mother needs to feel helpful and useful. When she visits, she is always looking for things that need doing in the house - laundry, gardening, cleaning. I never ask her and am always clear that she doesn't have to do any of it - but for her, helping her family is what makes her happy. Your mil might be the same?

candykane25 · 13/03/2016 13:36

When my dad was terminally ill, we took all responsibility for anything away from them. Instead of my nephews going to their house after school, they came to my house instead. They did still want to spend time with their GCs but we made it fun time instead of them being responsible.
The Important thing was that my dads finite time was as happy and as comfortable as we could make it for him.
At the end we stayed at their house and had care s coming in for personal care tasks.
Now that my mum has been a widow for 18 months, she really loves her caring responsibilities with her GCs as well as other activities she does with friends. But we still protect her from as much as we can.
Yes, I can understand your frustration with your SIL.
Sending sympathy.

theycallmemellojello · 13/03/2016 13:38

I'm sure your intentions are good, MrsOlaf, but when your MIL is telling you they're misplaced then you need to respect that.

You are saying that your MIL is leaving your FIL on his own, and that this worries you. So, realistically, the times when she'd be leaving him are times when she would be responsible for him anyway. So in practical terms, it may not be more exhausting for her to spend time with her GCs anyway. And given that your MIL is FIL's main carer, she is probably best placed to assess the risk of leaving him. If you're genuinely concerned about him being left, perhaps your DH and SIL could consider paying a carer for a few hours a week.

My mum looks after our DS and is very insistent on getting 'her time' with him. It's a huge help for us, for which we are very much appreciative, but it's also something that is very important to her. If my DF got ill, I don't see her wanting to give up that time. Your MIL may be similar - she may appreciate the connection with her GCs - a little joy among all that sadness.

And your SIL may well understand that she needs to feel wanted and needed rather than fussed over. It's pretty common for people to feel like this IME.

As I say, given that this is a relationship between two close family members in a very sad situation, and it has been agreed between the both. I think that you, a relative outsider, should tread very carefully before presuming that you know a better dynamic.

FantasticButtocks · 13/03/2016 19:24

YANBU to think Sil's behaviour is astonishing - it is. But I think it would be unwise to interfere in this difficult relationship between mother and daughter. It's a shame, but it's not your responsibility. You are doing whatever you can to help Pil's but that's all you can do.

moanwhingemoan · 13/03/2016 21:00

We are in a similar situation, my Dad is end stage heart failure, my mum is his carer. I have to practically fight her off sometimes as she does/tries to do too much for us and our DC. I have had to start not telling her things like Dc illness/if I am unwell as she steps in. I think and hope we have a balance that allows her to escape and supports her equally. From the outside it may appear selfish, but it's far more complex than that.

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