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to be really pissed at BFF's DH

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ivebeengrassed · 13/03/2016 06:03

I've NC for this so I don't out myself. Also my first AIBU!

Background: My BFF 'Mary' is married to my DH's BFF 'Bob'.

I just found out that 'Bob' has been reading 'Mary's' email. How you ask? He called my DH and told him some of the things I've said about him when Mary & I have emailed each other and done the usual venting with each other (as friends do) when we're angry at our spouses. Mary and I can really make 'digs' at our DHs and be extremely sarcastic but we know that we don't mean them, iyswim. Nothing vile or cruel. Just the usual 'can you believe what an idiot…' kind of thing. Apparently he was angry at her for something and rather than talk to her, he decided to print some of her 'venting' emails and pin them to their bedroom door. Then he decided that my DH 'needed to know' what I've said and called him. AND he's told DH he's going to forward my emails so he can read them for himself. He apparently wasn't home when he called DH and Mary has told me she's deleted them all. Hopefully before he's had a chance to forward them to his own email account! I'll also add that Bob until recently had a huge alcohol problem and was violent to her and some of the emails he saw were probably ones in which I told Mary to LTB and what I thought of his drinking. He's no longer drinking, and I was happy for her and thought things had been much better. Now, I'm not so sure!

Anyway, DH is upset that I criticized him to Mary, saying he wouldn't do that to me. Bob has put his own 'interpretation' on my words to DH. Needless to say this has caused some 'words' between DH and I, but I expect we'll get over it.

I'm really furious at Bob, not so much at Mary. I had no idea he had her email password and she had no idea he'd been reading her emails, as far back as two years, as she never reads his. DH says I should be angry at HER because she never told me her email wasn't private and that I should realize that Bob was only being 'a good friend'. My opinion is he did it as revenge for my telling Mary to leave him and to try to 'break up' Mary's and my friendship as I made it very clear that she shouldn't put up with his drunken abuse. The thing is I know quite a few of the really mean things he's said about her/her family because he's vented to my DH, both drunk and sober. I've kept quiet about them as DH relayed them to me under 'marital confidence'.

I told DH that I feel like telling Mary every mean thing Bob has said about her when he's been 'venting'. DH says it's different because I 'put it in writing' and if I told Mary I'd just be repeating Bob's 'verbal remarks'. I said the only difference is that Bob would have plausible deniability where as the emails are 'proof'. I've kept quiet about them as DH relayed them to me under 'marital confidence'.

I guess here are my AIBU;

AIBU at being mad at him, not her?

AIBU to want to tell her all the things he's said about her and her family when he's been drunk and/or 'venting' to DH? (Perfectly willing to be told AIBU on this point as DH told me in confidence)

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VimFuego101 · 14/03/2016 18:33

I wouldn't put it past Bob to put a keylogger on Mary's PC to try and get hold of her passwords. It would probably be best if she didn't use her home PC for anything she doesn't want Bob to access.

ivebeengrassed · 15/03/2016 00:09

Keylogger has been mentioned to Mary Vim. She had no idea they existed. She won't be using the PC for anything other than school emails and generic searches.

Spoken to Mary further. Bob has been back on the booze for some time and is now exhibiting paranoia. Apparently Saturday night he accused Mary of 'implanting microchips' under his skin. She said he had a lot of what looked like insect bites but were in reality where he'd been picking at himself to get the 'microchips' out. She understands the real danger she's in but I can't convince her to leave. Since this is my thread (not hers) I'm leaving it at that and will not explain her reasons except to say I disagree with them.

So this whole debacle of forwarding emails was done when Bob was completely shit-face, paranoid, vengeful blitzed. Drunken bastard.

DH is convinced that Bob is maintaining sobriety. He only calls DH when he hasn't been drinking (or minimally and can hide it). DH also believes that he's not drinking because he's on his last warning at work and 'he wouldn't drink, he's too afraid he'll lose his job'. At this point if I were to tell DH he's drinking again 1-I would be violating Mary's confidence, 2-he probably wouldn't believe me as he knows I'm furious at Bob, and 3-I'd be concerned that he'd tell Bob which would be the worse for Mary.

It's really a hellacious mess. Before this whole thing DH would have believed me and he would have 'been there' for Mary. Hell, she probably would have called him herself to ask for help! He would have called Bob and convinced him to stop drinking and go back to AA. Before this I knew that if I told DH he wouldn't tell Bob that Mary told us, now I'm not so sure. Bob, that drunken fool, has driven a wedge between DH and I with regards to this situation and has put Mary in danger because I can't ask DH to talk to Bob.

Alcohol is the very devil. I'm not a teetotaler, but it's these times where I could join the WCTU in a heartbeat!

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leelu66 · 15/03/2016 08:01

The alcoholism coupled with the paranoia is bad news I think. I wonder if the paranoia is due to the excessive alcohol?

You say this has put Mary in danger, and it sounds like you are right to be worried.

I am almost hoping that Bob does lose his job, so that Mary has a wake up call to the severity of the situation (and your DH too). But I realise that it may make it worse for Mary too.

It is a huge mess. It's very sad that you can't talk to your husband about this, so that you can support eachother and Mary.

At least Mary is not in complete denial and is taking some control away from Bob. Would be great if she was on MN so she can read some stories of women who have left abusive husbands.

DementedUnicorn · 15/03/2016 11:11

Bob is an arsehole but I think you brought it on yourself by being so disloyal in the first place. I do feel a bit sorry for you though with how much it has came back and bit you.

YWBU to tell Bob. 2 wrongs don't make a right

ivebeengrassed · 15/03/2016 12:15

Demented I accept blame for blowing off steam in writing, but not for using my BFF as a 'vent' when I've been upset with DH.

leelu I'm sure it has something to do with it. He goes on and off the wagon more often than than I can say. I don't know if it's simply excessive alcohol or the drying out/drinking again shock to his system. I've seen the paranoia myself a bit, he can become a real 'conspiracy theorist' when the dark side of drunk takes over.

I feel the same about Bob losing his job, but it would put them in dire financial straits.

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mamas12 · 15/03/2016 14:00

Could you have a conversation along the lines of your last paragraph re Before this whole dh would have.believed etc...
Say a what if scenario
Could that show him how Bob has damaged your relationship.
Ask him

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