That people don't seem bothered by the SNP blocking Sunday trading

[Twooter]

When we have it here in Scotland ( and always get caught out by the restricted hours when we go to England.

Anything people consider a leisure activity is one for them. It's no different to eating out.

Hospitals are a totally different issue. Statistics show that if you are admitted at a weekend to hospital, you are more likely to die than if you are admitted during the week.

Erm, no they don't.

But Andrew if EVEL had applied , they couldn't have voted could they?

"No one needs to shop on a sunday" people are getting annoying.

We don't need 99% of things we enjoy in the UK. But many of them make life easier and more comfortable.

I often arrive late evening on a sunday and would love if my Lidl was still open at 8-9pm. It seems like such a luxuary when im in scotland and can do just this.

They didn't block it for any other reason than to be difficult.

I'm voting to leave the eu, then hopefully Scotland can go next.

Isn't it the Speaker (that well-known SNP radical, John Bercow) who decides if something comes under EVEL or not?

Why blame SNP MPs for, er, doing their jobs?

Can't help enjoying the irony that, having whipped up fear during the general election campaign that the SNP would have undue influence on a Labour minority government, the Tories and their wafer-thin majority have now found themselves on the wrong end of that situation. Live by the sword, die by the sword...

I'm voting to leave the eu, then hopefully Scotland can go next

Go where?

Bourdic The Speaker ruled - correctly - that EVEL did not apply to the Sunday proposals, because they would have reduce the notice that shop-workers have to give not to work on Sunday from three months to one even in Scotland. That's why they had a vote on it. If the Government had simply brought in proposals to extend Sunday hours in England without changing the notice (in workers' favour, be it noted) EVEL would have kept the Scottish Members' noses out of it.

Which is why TendonQueen I hope they come back to this next session with a Bill which has no application to Scotland - and carry it.

Go where?

and be ruled by the EU and leave England alone.

feel

Scotland are part of the UK, what do you mean "leave England alone"?

I don't like the way the snp act however in this case I am glad the policy failed, and, if anything I'd restrict it further.
It's the workers, in particular the people who are struggling financially who will end up taking the Sunday hours and not the people who get the profits. I doubt it will make a huge difference anyway to people shopping on line.

However I suspect the snp have cut off their nose to spite their face here, as those sort of antics will lead quicker to them not being allowed to vote on Engish affairs.

Witchend The people who benefit the most are the people whose freedom to enjoy their leisure is respected!

When you say you'd restrict it further would you cut down the big shops' six hours or the small shops' 24 hours (or whichever of them they choose to open) or both? Would you restrict weekday hours too?

It must be awful to have to work all day Sunday and miss family time.
At least if you are rota for sunday now it's what 4 hours?
I'd rather them close completely tbh and get family time back for the kids.

NewLife4Me I wouldn't miss it if there was no shopping at all on Sunday.

Years ago, when a large high street store finally gave in and decided to open on Sundays, staff were told that they could choose whether or not so to do. Some did choose not to and quelle surprise, after that they always somehow missed out on any overtime going at Christmas.

But a lot of people work Sundays now, not just retail so you can't really say it's family time for everyone. I'd love more time to get things sorted on a Sunday and I find it really outdated that things are dead at 4.

Hospitals are a totally different issue. Statistics show that if you are admitted at a weekend to hospital, you are more likely to die than if you are admitted during the week.

No they don't. Hence my use of the word "lie". You're more likely to die on a Wednesday than any other day. The current administration know this fact, but it doesn't hide the real reasons for their backdoor cost-cutting so they continue to lie about it, secure in the knowledge that their eager little cheerleaders will just accept what they are told.

That's like the argument that says you can't care about gendered clothes and toys for children because girls on the African continent are still suffering FGM.

No, it isn't. Don't be so silly.

There's no nose-cutting, Witchend, EVEL legislation has already been passed.

And used.

Cleaty - your interpretation of the hospital mortality data is wrong. I don't blame you when Hunt & co has been spouting this rubbish for months.

I think all shops should be shut on Sundays. In these days of plenty, nobody will starve if they can't get their favourite brand of something on a Sunday. Improvise, people.

Regardless of the merits of the legislation, the SNP had no business voting on this. Their reasoning was tenuous.

They're just stirring up trouble, maybe hoping it will lead to circumstances where they can justify another Indy ref.

Katenka from page one. Do you know that morries are scrapping Sunday extra pay because of the living wage?
Whether Scottish mps voted or not, I'm pleased that it got voted out.

As a Christian and someone who think family time is important this is good news.

Erm. Scotland is still part of the UK you know. They voted not to leave. Therefore the MPs Scots' elected to represent them in Westminster, the seat of the UK parliament should surely be allowed to vote within that parliament.

If this a problem the UK as a whole needs to move to a federal system with seperate Scottish, Welsh and English parliaments (despite what some seem to believe Westminster is the UK parliament not the English Parliament).

This particular act was not restricted by EVEL, this is the "fault" of the government, and the Speaker (and EVEL in general which is a crappy bodge).

Seemingly E/W only matters can often affect Scotland , in a simple example if the UK government cuts spending on the NHS in E/W the NHS part of the block grant will also be cut - this is an obvious direct effect, but there are many more subtle indirect impacts as well.

Isn't it a positive thing that the SNP are actually doing the job of an opposition party? You wouldn't want a "one party state", after all.

Or are we all too used to Labour abstaining on the big issues?