To Think the Tories Are Actually At War With Disabled People?

[JoffreyBaratheon]

I've been mired in the grim process of my son's DLA being changed to the new benefit, PIP. During this time, I have heard the stories of other disabled people and their loved ones. This may make me biased. Or human.

On every forum I have been on for help, can see that thousand of other disabled people, their carers, appointees and loved ones are being pretty well tortured by the vicious cuts and the new, brutal system being forced into place.

Benefits advisers and people at charities in the front line trying to support people like us also seem to report they feel like the disabled are under attack.

Now I will never understand why the most disadvantaged people in society are being forced to pay for the mistakes of bankers and rich people. Losing DLA will be a blow to our family - most of all my son but all of us - we won't recover from. To multi millionaires like Campbell, no doubt it's back pocket change so they are incapable of understanding what they are doing to ordinary people.

The past few months going through this hell, I've often felt like we might as well cut to the chase, sew the lack triangle on our clothes, and wait for the work camp to open. And I don't say that lightly, as someone whose grandad was present during the liberation of Belsen. (Wasn't it another tory - Gove - who said historians got it wrong and the British were donkeys led by lions, or words to that effect - so we know the contempt in which we are held by these chinless wonders already).

AIBU to think that people like Cameron and IDS are targeting disabled people and their carers, specifically?

I honestly don't care too much what other countries do. Thankfully there is no-one in my family in need of benefits, but if there were I would want them to be worth something. I would love to be able to say that we take better care of our disabled people than any other country in the world.
As I've said before we are rich enough as a country to be able to afford it.

I'd call him on it. He'd most probably tell me to calm down dear
Honestly, I'm so worried about my daughter and others like her. I don't care about myself, just her. But I'm not rich and even though I am educated to degree level I haven't a hope in hell getting a good job again because I get 5 hours respite a fortnight and 2 overnights a month for a child who needs 24/7 care and now they are spitting feathers over her dla to pip (it was submitted mid January, I have no idea what is happening with it) and I get subjected to this ignorant nonsense from 'people off the internet' like the rest of us do in our position. You have no idea, you have absolutely no idea how hard it is to even get sorted to leave the house, let alone have a life. I support my daughter to do that but I really can't do it if they cut her benefits and support further. Her social care package has already been cut, all the voluntary clubs have been cut because of council cuts, her siblings support has been cut due to government cuts, I've had to give up my bloody job. I'm sick of it and whilst politicians debate and pick over our scrounging and panel at council think it's fine for us to become more and more isolated, I feel it's ironic she's in a minority in her special school class still being cared for at home, therefore saving the taxpayer money. I want what is best for her but there will come a point where they break me and I can no longer fight for her.

I don't see why putting people who are already close to the poverty line, over the breadline - is beneficial to anyone in society. Yet threatening the income of the wealthy, even just a tiny bit, is somehow intolerable. Carrot and stick - their rich pals with the carrot; the poor and disabled - the stick. Mysterious how they need incentivising - we need attacking.

Seriously, who votes for these idiots? You can see why they're ashamed, though.

op my first claim for PIP took 9months to process but it was a paper decision and awarded for 5yrs,also got my ESA as a paper decision

hope this helps and gives you a little hope

You should have all watched PMQ s but I think it's making me ill.

DD got her PIP award through very quickly and didn't have a face to face interview. The MS nurse helped her fill in the form.

You should have all watched PMQ s but I think it's making me ill. I did. Dave was in good sidestepping mode today as he also neatly slithered round the question about the conditions refugees are living in in Folkstone.
Did you see the Tory 'expert' afterwards talking about how many disabled people have been helped back into work?

Pretending cuts are reform, from what I just read!

I must go to the hairdresser. My hair needs "reforming".

Ah no, wait, I haven't been able to afford to go since 2011. Extravagant bitch that I am.

DLA-PIP turned 16 are some of the quickest claims to go through, mainly due to (if you follow instructions within time) the DLA continuing until the PIP is assesed.

Ive seen claims start to finish in 9 weeks.

Dla renewals took about 4 weeks at most!

I'm a bit sick of people who have no experience or no idea, telling us how it is as well

I'm a bit sick of people who have no experience or no idea, telling us how it is as well

Yes Owllady, this really gets to me too. It makes me even angrier, if that's even possible.

I think angry is most probably good. I think we are going to have to put our heads above the parapet :(

I'm hopefully transferring from DLA to PIP. I followed the time frame to the letter. It's been 17 weeks and counting so far. My DLA has actually run out now, but they're still paying it and will continue to do so for four weeks after they make the decision.

Fingers crossed for you Fairy. Shouldn't need to be though

Thank you Luis

To be fair, they're pretty much at war with everyone. The GWOT is just as much about keeping us all in line too.

Ain't that just the case?
Anyone want to join me in a revolution?

It's class war, folks. And they're winning.

Owllady what do you have in mind?

I work for a charity who amongst other things provide support to people attending assessments for both PIP and ESA
Some of the decisions reached are surprising but on the whole it is more that the criteria when rigidly applied do not meet all our variations as to what counts as a disability
Fluctuating conditions are hard to decide where on scale they should be scored, invisible conditions such as anxiety depression autism are hard to demonstrate the effects, different assessors will interpret guidelines with variation
We attend hundreds of these assessments a year, it is a very flawed system. Genuine claimants often do not score enough points, there will always be people who play the system, thankfully in a minority in my experience

My MP's name is first on this list of shameful tory scumbags voting to cut disability benefits without even bothering to assess its possible impact, first.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/esa-wrag-disability-benefit-cut-disabled-mps-vote-tories-iain-duncan-smith-a6918556.html

NO Tories voted against it; some abstained but that's all. They're filth.