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To be so upset for DD that her friends are being so awful to her?

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JumblyWumbly · 08/03/2016 10:00

DD is 11 and is in year 6 at school.

I am biased but she is a lovely girl; very friendly, open and upbeat, and has always been really popular at school and had lots of party invitations and got invited to lots of other childrens' houses to play.

She has had the same group of friends pretty much through school since reception. There are 6 of them in the friendship group and there have never really been any problems other than the very occasional temporary spat. They've all always been lovely girls and they've all always got on really well. Teachers have always commented on what a nice, strong group of friends they are.

At the beginning of this year a different girl, who has also been in their year since reception, started hanging around with them all. I'll call her Chloe. DD had always got on well with this girl and liked her, but since September Chloe has really become a queen bee of this group (something that the group didn't particularly seem to have before), and has really taken a dislike to DD and has become nastier and nastier to her. Over the months the others, who all think Chloe is amazing, have jumped on the bandwagon too and are nasty and snidey to DD a lot. They are very protective about Chloe and will do whatever she says, and if DD ever sticks up for herself they jump in to defend Chloe and are even nastier to DD.

It is just constant things; taking DD's lunch and hiding it on a regular basis, calling her names, doing things to her and then saying it's her being horrible, sending her horrible texts, little physical things like pulling her hair, etc. I have spoken to DD's teacher about it, who is lovely about it and has offered to speak to the girls but DD doesn't want her to as she thinks it will make it worse. The girls also all go to an activity one night per week and they have started doing it to her there too, last week they all kept spraying her with something they were using to do a cookery activity and she came home covered in food. It's an activity run by volunteers so I can't exactly go in there and speak to the leaders about it unfortunately. Also most of these are going to a different secondary school to DD, so they use this as a stick to beat DD with and call her names about the school she is going to and say that the school is rubbish.

DD has started to hang around with others girls at school, and has 'friends' to spend time with, but I can tell that she is just so sad about how these girls, her longterm friends, have behaved and are still behaving. She was upset last night and I have again offered to speak to the teacher but she doesn't want me to as she thinks it will make things worse and her last few months at the school will be more unpleasant, which I understand but at the same time I want the school to stop the behaviour!

I am friendly with the mums of these girls but haven't mentioned it to any of them, as I don't think it would be a good idea and would cause extra drama and increase the problem.

I just feel so sad for DD, and so upset. She's always loved school and felt a real sense of belonging and had good friends and now it's just awful for her :(

What do I do?

OP posts:
thewavesofthesea · 08/03/2016 15:02

It's only when I read things like this I realise how badly I was bullied at school. By people who were supposed to be my friends; so I thought that was how it should be. I was called ugly, was excluded from the group when it suited and was once told I should kill myself. It still echoes in my head now. It was low level, but constant. People on the outside thought that we were friends. I did too.

Please stand up for your daughter. I thought this was normal, and it still affects my self esteem now. I am so glad, in many ways, that my boys never have to be teenage girls. It was hell on earth.

thewavesofthesea · 08/03/2016 15:06

Sorry, that was a very self centred post. It just quite upset me to read about her; I saw myself in her. Luckily she has a lovely, understanding mum who she feels she can tell about these things Smile Keep being there for her and let her know you are on her side.

bumbleymummy · 08/03/2016 15:13

I'm glad you made the appointment. Your poor DD. Thanks I hate bullies.

BillBrysonsBeard · 08/03/2016 16:01

She'll be fine OP. This happened to me in year 6 so I hung with others or volunteered for lunch duty for the remainder of the year, then started afresh at secondary when everyone had grown up a bit over the summer and people had gone to different schools. Being in the youngest year again knocked the wind out of the queen bee's sails! Hope the teacher can do something for your dd Flowers

JumblyWumbly · 08/03/2016 16:18

DD came out of school tonight and burst into tears as they have literally hounded her all day today, talking loudly about her and saying she is ugly, pushing her, following her, and being little bitches to her. DD hung around with her other friends but this group would not leave her alone. I also saw two of the mums at collection and they both pretty much blanked me so I can only guess the girls are going home with concocted stories about how it's DD not them. DD is in bits because she is staying away from them, they just follow her.

Her teacher was out of the classroom this afternoon so wasn't there at pick up. I have tried to phone the school but the teacher has now gone into a meeting. I don't want DD to have to put up with this all day tomorrow so I have said to the school receptionist who answered the phone to tell the teacher that I would like a quick, but urgent, word first thing tomorrow morning.

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ExitPursuedByABear · 08/03/2016 16:20

Oh the poor love. And poor you. I'd definitely try and get a word in the morning.

Does noone else notice - the dinner ladies? (do they still exist?)

KERALA1 · 08/03/2016 16:29

Oh and read Cats Eye by Margaret Atwood. She is brilliant on the torture perpetuated by pre teen girls on each other. "To adults little girls are cute. To each other they are life sized".

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 08/03/2016 16:30

Oh noooooooooooooooooo

Maybe you keep her off tomorrow, but please get your list written down with key events and dates, it really helps as you are understandably upset

this will get better and it will change but- shit Sad

cingolimama · 08/03/2016 16:34

I would make an appointment with the Head. Your poor DD.

Canshopwillshop · 08/03/2016 16:37

My heart goes out to you both - this was my DD and I this time last week. Good decision to see the teacher first thing tomorrow. If she's not available could you ask to see the Head/Deputy Head?

The other thing I did to cheer my DD up is to arrange for one of her nice friends to come round for tea - is that something you could do?
Good luck for tomorrow. Let us know how it goes.

SquinkiesRule · 08/03/2016 16:37

Poor Dd. We had a "chloe" who was a bully at our Junior school too. Petite blond, tinkly voice, pretty blue eyes, butter wouldn't melt in her mouth. All the adults thought she was some sort of little angel.
I'm so glad you are sorting this for your Dd, I had to battle the bitch myself, i was target as I refused to cow down to her. I'd go to school shaking like a leaf. But I'm so stubborn I still refused to let her win.
Not sure I'd leave my Dd at the school without a chance to talk to the teacher first.
Girl guides need to know, they will watch them and stop them, I doubt it's the first time they'll have come across this.

Canshopwillshop · 08/03/2016 16:38

Oh, and have you got the nasty texts they have sent? Definitely show those to the teacher if you do.

APlaceOnTheCouch · 08/03/2016 16:38

Keep her off and go to see the HT. It needs to be dealt with firmly and quickly.

MuddlingMackem · 08/03/2016 16:42

Only read your first and last posts OP, but the thing that jumped out at me from the first is that your poor DD has been Wendied. Sad

I'll read the rest of the thread but you might want to look up some of the Wendy threads; although the women talked about on there aren't physically bullying the posters the way your DD's 'friends' are, I guess as adults the Wendying is more subtle, they might help her by understanding the Wendy phenomenon.

exLtEveDallas · 08/03/2016 16:55

Keep her off tomorrow and see the teacher AND the Head. Nip this is the bud.

cingolimama · 08/03/2016 16:57

I agree with other posters - if you can possibly keep her off school then you should. This is actually now a safeguarding issue - your DD's mental health and well being is at stake here. The only good thing is that your DD is lucky to have you as her champion. I would definitely talk to the HT as well as the teacher, given the kind of bullying your DD has been subjected to. The HT is obligated to deal with bullying incidents in a structured way - and because of their position, is probably better able to come down like a ton of bricks than a teacher.

Solidarity with you and DD.Flowers

MrsItsNoworNotatAll · 08/03/2016 17:17

This needs dealing with. Keep her off school and go and see the HT. They're are nasty little bullies who need to be called out on their behaviour.

scampimom · 08/03/2016 17:17

Makes me so cross that your poor DD is the one who has to do something drastic like staying off school, not these bullies. Please let us know what happens tomorrow - this has crossed a line from psychologically damaging meanness to actual physical intimidation. They're going that way because they've not been stopped, but I can totally understand your poor DD being worried about something being said - the fear is that it will go from out-and-out bullying to something far more insidious and hard for teachers to see. On the other hand, "Chloe" needs to be outed. It needs to be easier for the hanger-on/supporter types (her old friends) to ditch Chloe than to stay on her side. At the moment it's a case of preferring to have her in their tent ping out than outside their tent ping in.
Hugs to you and your little girl, I think you're both handling it really well.

Sallyhasleftthebuilding · 08/03/2016 17:34

Teachers can be discreet - I think you need to keep the meeting as DD says. dDD feels. DD thinks -

Don't get personal or "arrack the others - keep it factual and honest

DD should also speak up

Teacher should offer a plan in what will happen and a review date

Any decent teacher will be aware of any issues I doubt this level has escaped her

sleeponeday · 08/03/2016 17:53

Your poor, lovely DD. I hope the teachers have a good plan for how to deal with this.

I'm absolutely appalled, but alas not surprised, that the mothers are being so ridiculous. Apples and trees, alas.

sleeponeday · 08/03/2016 17:53

Sally offers excellent advice. It's so hard when your child is the target but the calmer and more rational you are, the more believed your DD will be.

RubbleBubble00 · 08/03/2016 20:02

this isn't just a teacher, I'd be heading straight down there tomorrow morning with dad and asking to see the head and the teacher. Get dd to tell them in her own words what exactly has been going on. I'd take dd back home after and treat her to a lovely mum and daughter day.

RubbleBubble00 · 08/03/2016 20:02

dad = dd

madmotherof2 · 08/03/2016 20:17

Could you write a letter to her teacher? So she doesn't know you've told her or that the girls see you talking to her?

I had something similar last year when DS was in yr6. He'd been part of a group of friends who had been together for several years. They'd all generally got on really well. Suddenly another boy got involved and started acting the boss and was encouraging the other boys to ignore DS etc. I did abit of digging ( and listening in to parents talking ) and realised that the issue was that this boy was jealous of the friendship between DS and his best mate so was trying to push DS out.
It turned pretty nasty with lots of name calling and putting down in front of others.

DS didn't want me to say anything but I wanted his teacher to at least be aware of what was happening so I wrote a letter and handed it in at the office so that DS and the other boys were oblivious

MadamDeathstare · 08/03/2016 20:20

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