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"I'd like to drop my trousers to the queen" rather than pick litter for her.

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bigmouthstrikesagain · 07/03/2016 11:31

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3472277/Shame-liberals-rubbish-efforts-clean-Britain-Queen-TOBY-YOUNG.html

I am afraid I am one of those terrible 'liberals' who are unimpressed with calls to 'Clean for the Queen' - I would like to see cleaner streets and parks and I always pick up my litter - I would call for better funded local services to provide cleaning crews and better maintenance of streets and parks. I always encourage my children to use the bins provided on the street - but the bins are infrequently emptied and the Councils are too cash strapped to ensure that parks/ roads are kept well maintained and safe. I carry rubbish home if there is no available bins and I think it is depressing how easily people drop their litter without a second thought. Maybe the Queen can provide more dog poo bins.

The Queen has f all to do with a better local environment. She is the person that must think the world smells like fresh paint, she has nothing to do with my life and I don't find an over privileged stately home squatter very inspiring - how much litter picking does she do? How would she have any understanding of the disenfranchised and disengaged in society who live shitty lives and are surrounded by ugly unsafe infrastructure, dog poo lined streets and the general impression that no one gives a shit about them.

Clean for our neighborhoods? Don't drop your litter? - use our council tax to provide better street cleaning services? - yes. Clean for the Queen? - no thanks.

OP posts:
GoblinLittleOwl · 07/03/2016 12:29

I have no idea how this offensively titled post relates to litter. I went on my second litter pick this weekend, along with men, women and children, and found most of the litter carefully tied in plastic bags, stuffed into landscaped bushes behind grass verges, near the bus stop and thrown over the fence of the public games area near the school.
The streets here are not ugly, unsafe, lined with dog-poo or short of bins; they are however, used by (some) lazy, dirty, entitled residents, who are NOT disenfranchised, neither are they poor, judging by the amount of fast food containers and drink bottles they discard.

MargotLovedTom · 07/03/2016 12:31

Offensively titled? Give over!

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 07/03/2016 12:32

Amen to OP! Absolutely. Also, Toby Young is an idiot.

jlivingstone · 07/03/2016 12:34

"The Queen would have to have approved the use of her name in the campaign"

No she wouldn't. I wish people on this site would stop spouting crap as though it's opinion. Think she has copyright on 'The Queen'?

As for the original post. Why not keep your little part of Great Britain great? Why is it so fashionable to dislike the royal family at the moment? As well as being ceremonial figureheads, they keep us safe, politically.

royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/insight/what-are-the-queens-powers-22069

BitOutOfPractice · 07/03/2016 12:35

It's all far too "get the yokels to doff their caps to the posh folk" patronising shit for my liking

jlivingstone · 07/03/2016 12:36

**as though it's fact

BitOutOfPractice · 07/03/2016 12:36

I am snorting at the idea of the queen keeping us safe politically.

squoosh · 07/03/2016 12:37

Well if 'Royal Central' says so who are we to argue?

Grin
DingleberryFinn · 07/03/2016 12:38

Clean WITH the Queen... would be a better campaign. They could even hire out lookalikes and make it a fun thing.

MargotLovedTom · 07/03/2016 12:40

I hope I can find a counter argument on republicansrus.co.UK.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 07/03/2016 12:40

I don't drop litter. Never have done, so I aint picking up anyone else's shite. Not even for the Queenie or even Jesus Christ Almighty.
Toby Young, get out of her arse hole.

tomatodizzy · 07/03/2016 12:44

That is one of those slogans that has historical and social implications that makes it all kinds of wrong.

I for one would like to actually see the queen picking up litter herself. Most people who own land, keep it litter free and tidy. She owns the seabed around the whole coast, there's a good place to start!

wornoutboots · 07/03/2016 12:45

I'd be much less likely to join in a tidy up campaign (haven't seen one around here anyway) using the monarchy as a "cause".

jlivingstone · 07/03/2016 12:47

I am snorting at the idea of the queen keeping us safe politically.

Summoning/Proroguing Parliament
Royal Assent
Secondary Legislation
Appoint/Remove Ministers
Appointing the Prime Minister
Head of the Armed forces

All these things mean a crazy PM can't destroy the country.

Maybe less snorting and more eduction would be a good idea.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 07/03/2016 12:50

I don't see Tin Lizzie running around after MD like a blue arsed fly.

tomatodizzy · 07/03/2016 12:54

All these things mean a crazy PM can't destroy the country. You mean like Thatcher? I hardly think it's the queen that stops Cameron from turning into the next Pinochet. Most of the head of state roles are purely ceremonial protocol rather than actual input.

newname99 · 07/03/2016 12:54

I think it only be appropriate if the Queen lead by example.Why don't we see the Royal family doing public acts of service like litter picking, or serving at old people homes..not just à phoot shoot either but a real stint.
I know someone who has worked with the Royals and they are unbelievable privileged and as a result have very little real life skills.

The level of privledge that are Royals enjoy is out if step with modern life so they need to radically change.

CauliflowerBalti · 07/03/2016 12:55

jlivingstone - I work in advertising, believe me when I say that you have to seek permission to use the Queen's name in an advertising campaign. Or google it if you don't believe me - this is from www.royal.gov.uk
Q3: Do I need permission to use Royal, Queen Elizabeth II or Queens?
A3: Yes. Applications for the grant of the title ‘Royal’; ‘Queen Elizabeth II’ and ‘Queens’ are
subject to the usual strict criteria governing the use of titles.

CauliflowerBalti · 07/03/2016 12:57

They would also have had to sought permission to link this event to her birthday, just like permissions had to be sought for the Royal Jubilee.

This is actual fact.

acasualobserver · 07/03/2016 12:59

Poor old Germany - democracy on a knife edge - they need to get a monarch.

Frika · 07/03/2016 13:00

All these things mean a crazy PM can't destroy the country.

Were you sentient under the Thatcher regime???

Lockheart · 07/03/2016 13:03

If it makes some people pick their litter up I don't give a damn what they call it.

They could call it "Pick it up you lazy twat" for all that it matters.

OrianaBanana · 07/03/2016 13:04

Clean WITH the Queen... would be a better campaign. They could even hire out lookalikes and make it a fun thing.

I would totally do that.

I work in advertising, believe me when I say that you have to seek permission to use the Queen's name in an advertising campaign..

Fair enough but 'The Queen' isn't actually her name (is pedantic). She was christened Elizabeth Alexandra Mary of York. Presumably you can't copyright 'the Queen' as it could refer to any number of queens.

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 07/03/2016 13:07

How about 'Clean to Queen' ? Everyone has to have Bohemian Rhapsody or similar blaring from their houses whilst delittering their street.

squoosh · 07/03/2016 13:08

Clean to Queen definitely makes more sense!

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