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To feel sick about this RE Tony Blair and Immigration, apparently it didnt interest him.

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EatenEasterChocsAlready · 27/02/2016 09:31

I am staggered to have come across these articles this morning. Someone has written a book about him and immigration, interviewing people in office at the time, and so on.

Staggered I actually feel sick.

I expect the backlash over this, BUT I feel ill, because I live in an area that was really suffering in 2007 and I had my first child then.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3466499/Conman-betrayed-Britain-immigration-utterly-amoral-PM-led-conspiracy-let-MILLIONS-migrants-breaking-rules-deceiving-public.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3466512/The-Eastern-Europeans-shouldn-t-worry-numbers-Blair-turned-blind-eye-impending-migration-crisis.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3466485/How-Blair-cynically-let-two-million-migrants-Explosive-biography-reveals-PM-s-conspiracy-silence-immigration-debate.html

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EatenEasterChocsAlready · 27/02/2016 17:51

Of course tony is to blame, he had the choice to follow germanys lead and he chose not to take it.

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Sophia1984 · 27/02/2016 17:55

Do you mean the 700,000 Eastern Europeans who moved here over 10 years? That's hardly 'millions...very quickly'

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AugustaFinkNottle · 27/02/2016 17:58

Eaten, you are claiming to know what my experiences of birth are. How is that not repugnant, to use your own terminology?

And you're not reading my post properly, so I do wonder whether you've read all the facts correctly. I referred to waiting for a bed in the context of one of the things a pregnant woman may worry about, not in the context of what happened in Reading in 2007.

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LifeofI · 27/02/2016 18:05

i dont know if that is true but i want out the EU.

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nonamenopackdrill · 27/02/2016 18:11

Grab your torch and pitchforks.

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AppleSetsSail · 27/02/2016 18:16

Grab your torch and pitchforks.
Bingo.

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thecatfromjapan · 27/02/2016 18:34

The new pogroms begin.Sad

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BirthdayBetty · 27/02/2016 18:35

Funny what with there being a referendum an all .......

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thecatfromjapan · 27/02/2016 18:38

Tony? Tony is to blame?

This weird over-intimitization of the head of a political party sounds deranged.

Political decisions are made for a number of factors, by groups of people. And bearing in mind we live in a democracy, those decisions are made with the voting population in mind.

You make it sound as though you are talking about your boyfriend who borrowed your rake and broke it.

You also sound like a muppet.

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BirthdayBetty · 27/02/2016 18:41

thecat Grin

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BillSykesDog · 27/02/2016 19:02

Tony? Tony is to blame?

This weird over-intimitization of the head of a political party sounds deranged.

Political decisions are made for a number of factors, by groups of people. And bearing in mind we live in a democracy, those decisions are made with the voting population in mind.

You obviously haven't heard about Tony Blair's presidential style of government then?

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Tanith · 27/02/2016 19:14

Op, I grew up in Reading and my family still live there. It has always been a culturally diverse area and I suspect a great many of the current inhabitants would regard your attitude with disbelief and contempt.

Incidently, my sister managed to give birth in the Royal Berks around the same time as you without all the drama and hysteria.

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AppleSetsSail · 27/02/2016 19:16

The new pogroms begin.

What a moronic comment. Kindly refer me if you can to the genocidal comments on this thread?

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RhiWrites · 27/02/2016 19:28

Vertigo do not forget under this drive to massively increase multiculturalism, this suppression of true numbers, deliberate vagueness, 350,000 asylum seeker re packaged as economic migrants, no thought to integration or communities, and an over empathizing with other cultures, that Rotheram etc was operating.

What exactly is your problem with multiculturalism, OP? Multiculturalism is s good thing! And asylum seekers, what do you have against them?

Here's another cheery read by a Daily Mail journalist: Londonistan by Melanie Phillips.
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BillSykesDog · 27/02/2016 19:45

What exactly is your problem with multiculturalism, OP? Multiculturalism is s good thing!

That's debatable. It means incomers retaining the culture of their place of origin and not necessarily adopting the culture of the UK. So we now have 'multiple cultures' (hence the name) rather than a general overarching one which most people share.

This can be benign, and mean that we all get to enjoy fireworks on Diwali or join in with the festivities for Chinese New Year. Other aspects are not so benign, communities which stick to their culture so rigidly they voluntarily segregate themselves and have nothing to do with the rest of the population. Honour based violence, forced marriage, FGM, caste based discrimination, Sharia or Beth Din courts which actively discriminate against women, oppressive attitudes towards women, subverting the political system by using imported organisations like biraderi or clans to manipulate results, pretty appalling attitudes towards women resulting in crimes like Rochdale, Rotherham, Oxford etc which went unpunished and were allowed to continue due to cultural sensitivities. I could go on.

Multiculturalism is generally considered to be a bit of a failed system which has led to poorer race relations and far more tensions.

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lorelei9 · 27/02/2016 19:57

well put Bill

important to remember how many immigrants came to the UK in the hope of leaving behind the aspects of "culture" that saw them as lesser citizens - and now find themselves not as free as they had hoped Sad

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