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To think you don't fire your employee in a public place within earshot of dozens of strangers?

86 replies

BipBippadotta · 26/02/2016 17:42

This has been haunting me all day.

So this morning I was sitting in a branch of Pret, when a woman a table over started talking incredible loudly on the phone about a team member of hers who was underperforming. She was clearly on to her HR department, announcing her intention to fire this person, asking how much notice she'd have to give them, what severance pay, etc.

A moment later, she made another phone call, asking someone to come and meet her in Pret 'for a brief chat'. I thought, surely she's not summoning her employee to an entirely public place to be sacked? Cos you'd have to be a sociopath to do that, right?

A woman came in & sat down, the first woman told her perfunctorily she was 'no longer suitable for the role', talked her through what she would be paid, offered her the opportunity to clear out today or work a notice period. Bizarrely, she also told the sacked employee the team were going out for drinks and asked if she would be coming along! Throughout this the employee looked mortified, and at one point seemed on the verge of tears, and left when the conversation was done.

Just to reiterate, this was the middle of a coffee shop, 10:30 AM, so quite a few people in there but still quiet enough for EVERYONE in there to hear the entire conversation. I heard what this woman was being paid for her notice period. I heard all the reasons she was considered to be underperforming.

Sacker then got on the phone to HR, said it was done, had a little chuckle about how the sackee had 'got a bit emotional'.

Am I being U to think that this is unbelievably unprofessional behaviour?

And was I U to have left a little note to this effect on her table, as I had to leave for an appt before she was done chortling down the phone about her former employee's public humiliation?

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trixymalixy · 26/02/2016 17:47

YANBU, very unprofessional. How did she react to the note?

Purplehonesty · 26/02/2016 17:48

That's terrible! Did you manage to catch the name of the company? I would be tempted to ring up and speak to the person in charge .

OberonTheHopeful · 26/02/2016 17:49

YANBU, alarmingly unprofessional! HR matters like that should always be confidential.

Chippednailvarnish · 26/02/2016 17:50

You weren't on The Strand in London OP? I had an old boss who sounds just like you described...

LindyHemming · 26/02/2016 17:51

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SmallGreenBouncyBall · 26/02/2016 17:54

yanbu
that's shocking!

noalcoholformeplease · 26/02/2016 17:54

I once heard the land Lord of a pub fire a young lad for being "fecking late and fecking useless' It was horrible. The pub wasn't very busy but the lad had to walk through from the kitchen to the door. Never went back and the pub went under very soon after. Karma

heatseeker14 · 26/02/2016 17:54

Which branch were you in? What a nasty piece of work please email them to complain.

MadamDeathstare · 26/02/2016 18:02

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BipBippadotta · 26/02/2016 18:07

She was still on the phone when I left, so didn't see how she reacted to the note. I just figured someone had to tell her how appalling her behaviour was. Just in case it hadn't occurred to her!

It was in London, but not the Strand, Chippednailvarnish. Just think, there could be others like her in every coffee shop throughout the land. Really wish I'd got names, or the name of the business. Sounded like the poor woman who got sacked did something sales-related.

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FruStefanOla · 26/02/2016 18:11

That sounds awful and, yes, dreadfully unprofessional.

I bet the HR dept had no idea that the 'sacker' was somewhere outside and in the hearing of the general public.

Chippednailvarnish · 26/02/2016 18:15

Tell us the branch, as this sounds very familiar...

BipBippadotta · 26/02/2016 18:18

What really stayed with me was the feeling of being unwillingly complicit in someone else's humiliation. I felt quite ragey.

So reassured that other people think this is awful, too - I was worried I might be told that this is common employment practice!

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Sonnet · 26/02/2016 18:22

Very well done for leaving her a note Flowers

BipBippadotta · 26/02/2016 18:22

It was Farringdon. But to be clear, it wasn't anyone who worked for Pret. It was just some random person who was sat there, drinking a coffee, summoning her employee from a nearby office to be sacked in public.

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Chippednailvarnish · 26/02/2016 18:24

OK so it's not who I thought it might be!

mumeeee · 26/02/2016 18:28

Yanbu. That was extremely unprofessional. She should have spoken to her employee in a private room where they worked. Also I think the employee should have been given some notice about her under performance and not just be summoned to a coffee shop to be sacked.
I'm glad you left a note

MySordidCakeSecret · 26/02/2016 18:29

what an almight twat Angry

olivegardener · 26/02/2016 18:31

Jesus she sounds like a psychopath! That's disgusting. To sack someone publicly and then gloat about it?! Hopefully employee will launch a formal complaint.

OP is there any chance you can report? This woman really does not deserve to stay in her job.

StealthPolarBear · 26/02/2016 18:31

I too thought you meant a pret worker !
I came on here to say unless you own the big top and they're stuffed in a cannon...

ScarletForYa · 26/02/2016 18:32

Well done for leaving a note OP.

Aeroflotgirl · 26/02/2016 18:33

What a nasty piece of work, hope she has a taste of her own medicine.

SharkSkinThing · 26/02/2016 18:34

What did your note say?!

nonamenopackdrill · 26/02/2016 18:37

Awful behaviour. I feel so sorry for the person who was sacked, but hopefully she will realise that she would be better off not working for that piece of work.

I sat in a London branch of Nero recently, where a job interview was being conducted on the next table. Again, not Nero-related, more like an HR role, but I was staggered that it was happening in such a public space.

Must be a thing?

dreame · 26/02/2016 18:41

I know if some life coaches (who just call themselves life coaches, not affiliated with any organisation) who think it's a fine idea to have introductory sessions in coffee shops. The client obviously knows before they turn up, but I'm staggered that anybody does (they apparently do).