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AIBU?

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AIBU to think that something other than killing this dog could have been done?

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NotGonnaAnswerThePhone · 24/02/2016 14:10

This is such a terrible story and not to be read by the fainthearted.

I understand that the dog could have caused an accident even at 3am when traffic is a lot quieter but surely they could have tranquilised it? Shit, even shooting it would have been more humane than accelerating towards it at such a high speed to ensure the dog would be killed outright.

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MrsGentlyBenevolent · 24/02/2016 16:31

Does it matter actually how much 'risk' they should have taken? Honestly? Not many on this thread actually cares about the cruel manner the dog was killed because it avoided an accident that may not have happened. I'm getting quite bored of repeating myself. Only people think people lives mean more than any other animal's - a selfish attitude, but one people are entitled to have and I won't argue with it further. It has not changed my opinion at all, in other circumstances the police would have done more, but it was just a dog at night, so there we go.

hiddenhome2 · 24/02/2016 16:34

The dog wouldn't have felt anything. I was knocked over by a car when I was nine and was unconscious before I had time to realise what was happening. There was no pain.

ComeonSummer1 · 24/02/2016 16:34

I simply can't believe normal human beings are posting that it was a shame a loose dog wasn't ru Ning around a motorway during rush hour.

Fucking morons. No apology for that feel free to report this personal attack. I hope to God your stupid posts don't come back to haunt you of a loved one is killed or seriously hurt on a road.

Itisbetternow · 24/02/2016 16:34

There must also come a time when someone in authority says we have spent enough time chasing this dog whilst using all the available police on duty at that time of night. I don't like the outcome but who am I to say whether it was done correctly or not - I wasn't there at the time and I don't know what other more serious emergency calls were probably coming in at that time demanding the police resources.

Abed · 24/02/2016 16:34

As sad as it is there was nothing else they could do.

OurBlanche · 24/02/2016 16:34

Oh! Well, that changes my mind - that is sheer lunacy, MrsGB, lunacy!

And you have missed the posts were many of us have acknowledged it wasn't a good thing to have done.

But, as I now assume you are a card carrying member of PETA or similar, I shall leave you to it. In my world a human life is more important than any other animal. I suspect any animal would say the same, lion, cat, dog, elephant.

MaidOfStars · 24/02/2016 16:36

Not many on this thread actually cares about the cruel manner the dog was killed

They do, of course they do. Most posters have said it was horrible but necessary.

You are saying it was unnecessary but not offering alternatives that would have rendered it unnecessary.

What should the officers have done?

DinosaursRoar · 24/02/2016 16:36

The police on the scene had a dangerous situation, by the time this decision was made, it was already get on to 5am, closing the road to wait for a Vet would mean closing the road to more like 7am, possibly 8am, this is a massive thing to do on a port road for an animal that was already highly distressed and from other reports, it does sound like they tried very hard to find other solutions first.

Not ideal, but if it had been a cat, this would be a non-story, there's no obligation to try to catch cats on roads, the police would have quietly hit it and the story would never be reported. It's only that dogs are treated differently because they were traditionally more likely valuable working animals than 'just' pets.

MrsGentlyBenevolent · 24/02/2016 16:38

As much of a 'fucking moron' as people taking that post out of context. I said that if it had been running around during rush hour then they wouldn't have taken the option of running it over as they did. But please take that as me wishing that a dog had caused a massive pile up on a dual carriage way, killing people. That's a very sensible way of taking it, well done you. I'm not taking it as a personal attack , don't worry. It's only the internet, people have different opinions, some get worked up about their view (like I have in this case), and some people don't read properly. It's ok .

BathtimeFunkster · 24/02/2016 16:38

next time an animal gets in my way, I'll just run it over.

So you're going to start following the Highway Code?

Good.

If HGV drivers hadn't been risking people's lives swerving to avoid the dog it could have been put out of its misery much more quickly and there wouldn't have been such a waste of police resources.

Thurlow · 24/02/2016 16:39

"Yes, I appreciate that you are scared for your life after the way this man has acted towards you and you can't get him out of your house, but I'm sorry, we don't have any officers to send to help you because all 6 officers on duty in this area tonight are currently setting up a road block on an A road to try and catch a runaway dog..."

Gileswithachainsaw · 24/02/2016 16:40

I don't value my life above anyone's.
I do care about killing animals being done humanely.

I'm just obviously thick cos I can't see how with no light, limited resources, no guns, no darts, no drugged food (not that it would eat when so stressed anyway) and the need to be able to get near the damn thing in order to use a catch pole, just how they could caught the poor thing.

IPityThePontipines · 24/02/2016 16:41

YABU and I hope you are not in a job where you have similar levels of authority.

The police did the right thing.

Anyone saying they would not do that to a human needs to look up Mersey Tunnel Joyrider.

Owllady · 24/02/2016 16:41

Presumably as it was vicious it would have been put to sleep anyway?
It's really not up to me to hazard a decision as to what was for the best, I'd leave it to the police decide
Farmers are allowed to shoot dogs on their land etc I suppose they were told to do this
I know it's not very nice though

BathtimeFunkster · 24/02/2016 16:42

You just saved me posting something very similar.

StillDrSethHazlittMD · 24/02/2016 16:42

Giles nor can anyone else. Although MrsGently insists there were other options but for some bizarre reason doesn't want to share these with the rest of us

10storeylovesong · 24/02/2016 16:43

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Withdrawn at poster's request

DinosaursRoar · 24/02/2016 16:43

How is it not a 'humane' way to kill the dog? It would have died pretty much instantly, unlikely to know what was happening. That's about as humane a way to kill an animal as you get.

ComeonSummer1 · 24/02/2016 16:45

You said it was a shame it hadn't happened at rush hour!

Quite clearly if it had there would have probably been casualties and that would have included the poor dog. As posters who know the road have told you it's s bloody busy dangerous road.

That would have been the reality.

However reality isn't figuring in your arguments is it? Closing motorway lanes, calling a dog warden, darting the dog, at 3am? One police unit, not practical.

I feel desperately sorry for the officers and o expect their dreams will be haunted but unlike you I hope they are not.

BathtimeFunkster · 24/02/2016 16:46

Taser?

I presume that would have involved having to get too close to a dangerous animal.

Anyone know about using tasers?

Do the police carry them routinely?

Abed · 24/02/2016 16:47

With tasers you have to be very close and they are not very accurate.

GruntledOne · 24/02/2016 16:47

It has not changed my opinion at all, in other circumstances the police would have done more

You've been asked more than once to identify what the police should have done. What they might do in other circumstances is irrelevant: what should they have done in these circumstances?

MaidOfStars · 24/02/2016 16:48

I agree, Dinosaur. The method is not problematic for me - massive/blunt trauma, preferably involving the head, is as quick and painless a death and any living thing could hope for. I think shooting it might have risked a more cruel suffering.

Warmworm · 24/02/2016 16:48

Awful policing, poor dog. I think they should have closed the road and tried to catch it, at 3am it is not ever going to be very disruptive.

GruntledOne · 24/02/2016 16:49

I very much doubt that the traffic police carry tasers.

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