To think this is Disablist?

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We are part of the local motorbike scene, we go to a lot of the rallies and the kids always enjoy looking at the bikes.

There is one that we cannot go to, because they don't allow cars. You have to arrive on a motorbike. The only cars that are allowed are those who have a blue badge.

My ds is disabled, He has Autism, ADHD, Sensory Processing disorder and severe dyspraxia. He gets Higher Care and Lower Mobility DLA, there is absolutely NO way we can go to this rally because of their refusal to accept cars.

Its been suggested we use a side car. You CANT put an autistic child in a fucking side car.

I have told them that they're breaking the law with regards to access and disability discrimination, because not all disabilities require a blue badge, but it doesn't mean the person is able to get about on a fucking motorbike.

It's a BIKE rally, probably put on by a local BIKE group. That means if you don't ride a bike, you can't go. Not if you can't ride a bike because you're disabled, you can't go. It may be anti biker, but they haven't banned the disabled have they, just cars.

Rather a pyrrhic victory though if it results in more people being banned, and OP's kids still not being able to go.

• anti car driver, sorry, not anti biker :)

DH does ride a motorbike, i don't because i'm a full time carer to my DS and i have to drive the car Sychnant!

Sorry, you didn't say that in the op.

Could you not park close by and arrive on foot?

OP How suitable as these events for kids? Is there things there for kids to do? Or is it more of an adult biker meet up?

Could you not park close by and arrive on foot

I was also thinking of this.

Second that it's a bike rally, not a car scooter, hover board event. The final destination of the rally or start where bikes are on display would be available to all, you could park nearby and enjoy the bikes.

but by banning all cars does that not mean that they are also causing discrimination to children,elderly etc,should they not have concessions avaliable to them to

it sounds like its a festival for bikers, not children. Maybe you could drive nearby and park elsewhere?

I dont think its disablist to say that he cant come in a car if your childs disability doesnt even mean hes entitled to a blue badge.

Bloody hell Branleuse now that attitude is disablist. My DS has autism and cannot walk. That is cannot walk. His legs will move but his brain tells him otherwise. He CANNOT WALK. He gets low rate mobility and is also not entitled to a Blue Badge. And many children with autism will not get one until people understand it's a neurodevelopmental condition. Not a child being a bit naughty or difficult.

My home town has a biker's group that does a HUGE amount for the local community, children in particular. Everyone is welcome at their events.

However once in a while they do a "bikers only" event. It's a chance for them to get together without having to hire a bouncy castle

Maybe this is what your group are doing? How long have you known them? Do they usually do this or is this a one off? Can you accept you might have to miss this one event?

What do you think OP? Park nearby and walk to the event? Hope that works out and your son gets to go along.

I very doubt any children like these biker things. Massive benefit to the children if you don't go.

Sounds like they have tried to make a concession to disabled people but haven't understood the definition of disabled (for those interested you can Google it with Equality Act 2010) and think that a blue badge is an indicator of disability. Which it isn't.

There is no card or ID to state a disability. Entertainment venues have got into trouble with this in the past by insisting people produced their "disabled badge" or "disability card". Disability is more nuanced than that although the definition is succinct enough.

Op I'd go back and ask them again, politely explaining and saying that you are asking for a reasonable adjustment to be made to accommodate your child's disability and that you can provide the following evidence

A blue badge is an indicator of some disabilities. I could have worded my post better!

They are not being disablist as they have said you can go on a bike, so its meant for bikers and thats it.

medusacascade, sorry if you think im disablist. All 3 of my children have autism. I think I am just realistic.

Theyre not saying the child cant go, and its not actually necessary that he goes.

I think you need someone to help you fill out your DLA forms better if he actually cannot walk and only gets low rate

Branleuse sorry. I was rude. As I'm sure you know every day is a fight against adversity and it gets wearing.

no worries, it is difficult x

Some shocking disablism and some sheer pig ignorance on this thread!

And I'm stunned at how many people think there are no children who are into motorbikes. And also that know the OP's child better than the OP does.

It's perfectly within the realms of possibility for children to enjoy these events (plenty of children love motorbikes, cars, trains, trams, boats, etc) and - amazingly - for the OP's child to enjoy these events.

It seems a bit odd to be that desperate to go to bikers' events if you aren't on a bike. OK some events might have stuff for hangers on but they sound like they're mainly ran by bikers for other bikers.
It sounds as though you want to make life hard for the bikers.

If other children can go but the op's cannot, because of a rule that makes adjustments for some disability but not others, that is a problem.

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pig ignorance . Nice.,