to disapprove of my friend

[Lilyannapollyanna]

My friend has a teenager who left school last year. Although her child is in college, she also has a job. But she hasn't declared that her DD works to child benefit - the job is cash in hand. I don't begrudge any kid earning a bit of money but isn't this fraud? She's always been one to voice opinions about people on benefits, even slagging off a family member once who sold things over the course of a month (their own possessions) because they were moving into a smaller house - basically saying they were on benefits and the money should have been declared.
AIBU to think that she's being a hypocrite? Tbh I think the main reason she's doing it is so that her ex's maintenance amount doesn't change due to the child earning money. It's not just a Saturday job either she works some evenings and days while not at college - plus extra during holidays.

Yup wanted a benefit bashing thread

We would say she was "right" to claim CB, yes

Are you thick or summat ?

Okay so it's not illegal. I genuinely didn't know.

So maybe next time get your facts right before making a fool of yourself.

If she came on here being judgemental about people claiming benefits, of any kind, she'd get her arse handed to her on a plate. Just like you're going to...

You obviously believed that she was committing fraud, you've been set straight but are still desperately trying to make your friend sound like a terrible person. It's actually reflecting very badly on you.

What her daughter earns won't affect your 'friend's' child benefit. I worked whilst at college, I even got the now defunct Education Maintenance Allowance! So yeah YABU.

This is the ONLY issue I have with my friend. I don't want to say too much in case I put myself but she slags off people on benefits quite a lot. I'm fairly sure the education isn't full time
Either but I still wouldn't get involved or report her.
Maybe I'm too sensitive. Who knows. If she didn't get on her high horse about benefits so much it wouldn't have even occurred to me.

Have you got nothing better to do then start a benefit bashing post about your friend claiming cb for her DD
Majority people claim CB unless earning 50thousand plus

Jeez check your facts before starting twatty threads.

YABU.

It's a kid with a part time job for pocket money. Doesn't mean her father doesn't have to pay for his child, or that she's no longer entitled to child benefit.

Don't be so nasty.

Do you know what hypocrite means!? If she said she disagrees with benefit fraud and then committed benefit fraud she would be a hypocrite but she IS NOT DOING THAT.

How am I bashing benefits? I've already stated that I claim tax credits myself but I haven't told her because she seems to judge people who work but claim them to top up their incomes.
The rudeness on here is shocking. Id rather make a fool of myself than be so rude. Judgemental much! I asked a question, I accepted I was wrong about the fraud yet still get insulted.

Well if she's bashing people on benefits why haven't you called her on it so far? What do you expect people here to do about that?
No your issue was you thought she's doing something illegal. Now you've got the facts, mind your own business.

So correct me if I am wrong but you are saying that her DD can earn however much money she likes and still counts as a qualifying child for
CB purposes? Even in school holidays doing a full working week?

Why don't you shop her op if you're so convinced her DD isn't in full-time education, you're clearly determined to convince yourself you're in the right when you've been told quite conclusively that you're wrong.

You haven't accepted it, you called her a hypocrite after being informed you're wrong.

Because your trying to cause unnessary trouble for your friend
You sound resentfull her dd might be saving her wages for uni

I wouldn't report her. Because I don't begrudge her DD earning money. My issue was her being so high and mighty about people claiming benefits when her DD earned £500 cash in hand just over the Christmas holidays. Fairly sure working cash in hand when you are of tax and national insurance paying age is illegal. But I could be wrong about that and just thick.

I have not once said that I was trying to cause trouble for anyone. I asked a question on an Internet forum under a nickname.

Blinkin' heck.

OP, you're wrong. Concentrate on your own finances rather than wasting time and energy sticking your beak into other people's.

My DD was earning and I still claimed CB.

I don't think that there are enough jobs (Liverpool) to be able to judge people on benefit, but some of the people that live around me etc, disgust me.

CB is maintain the child, the child's earnings then can be for extras. Lower income children shouldn't have to maintain themselves, just because they're from a lower income family, even though some absolutely have to.

Working and handling money is good for Teens, before they have that responsibility of contributing, that's why pare rounds were good.

Your attitude to that, is ridiculous. Also you don't have to be in a collage full time, for it to be a full time course.

I hate that what is a much needed benefit and should be almost universal, is now lumped into other benefits.

Challenge her like an adult, if she's ranting in front of you.

She's not "working cash in hand". She won't have earnt enough to have paid NI and tax.

DS1 worked for a nationwide chain, with a proper HR dept, when he was at college. He never paid tax or NI either, neither did DS2 who worked in a small independent shop.

People aren't being rude, they are just calling you out.

Her DD won't be earning enough to pay tax or NI. You have an allowance of £10600 a year which is about £880 a month tax free. Just give it up op, you're acting like a total ignorant dick.