To be a bit worried and consider splitting the m m r jabs

[scarednoob]

DD is only 5 months but it is playing on my mind already, as a fair few people have said they won't be vaccinating their babies at all and hinted ominously about doing my research.

I had measles quite badly as a little girl; i wouldn't wish it on anyone. So I am certainly not saying she won't be having the jabs. But from the reading I'm doing, the m m r does seen like a lot to give a little body all in one go.

I was wondering what people thought - is there any benefit to spreading them out? Am I being daft/unreasonable to worry? (I know it would mean going privately; that's not an issue.)

Thanks all!

It's possible through your regular GP to give each separate injection at different times. So she would have mmr (combined) but then have the other year jabs around four weeks later so not quite so much for the immune system to cope with in one go??

sugar's thread is here.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/2571819-Im-going-to-tell-you-all-to-consider-something

Really worth reading and brace if you to share.

Brave of you to share (sorry for typo).

I got the single measles vaccine at the baby jabs clinic for ds.

The dr is very unbiased actually despite running a clinic privately. He wasn't anti MMR and didn't say anything negative towards it to my H during the consultation. He Just wants to prove single vaccines for parents who are worried about the MMR so he's still getting children vaccinated which is a good thing.

I have two friends who aren't vaccinating their children and I don't have their kids over anymore as I have a newborn.

Purple thanks for sharing on here. What an awful thing to happen, absolutely heartbreaking.
.we were so lucky, dd came along in October and they introduced it in Sept so we didn't have to pay

sugar very brave of you to share. It was posts like these that encouraged me to have my DCs receive this vaccine last year.

Thanks for linking purple

So sorry for your loss sugar

ollie thank you. I have written the thread (although it was very difficult) to raise awareness.
Please feel free to read everybody and comment
Warning its not very cheery

It seems to have made people sit up and take notice sugar hopefully you will have persuaded more parents to get the vaccine and save lives

I hope so ollie if I can save just one life by starting my thread it will be worth writing.

Can someone explain go me the difference between the 8w 12w and 16w jab (all of which are combined) and the mmr.

Yes they are for different diseases I'm a thicko but get that much but in terms of the "little bodies can't cope" rhetoric then having these early jabs but refusing the mmr doesn't make sense?

Purple daisies
Hmm...on the GCSE science course you have to be able to identify potential issues with bias in sources of evidence. Even my lowest ability pupils could see a link with those two sentences.

Have you read the book yourself? Is history wrong? Or do you just choose to ignore because he has a clinic for people who want to vaccinate separately.

At least they are vaccinating IMHO. There are a ton of crazies out there who aren't and advocating such nonsense. This is the only book I've read that present facts over opinion.

Sugar21 In all your posts, your pain leaps off the page and leaves me in tears. I hope you have support in real life with your grief.
You are to be commended for trying to raise awareness of vaccines and your bravery is pretty inspirational.
Remember your daughter will always be with you in your thoughts and memories and be kind to yourself always

Yes I have read the book allisgood. I also remember when the website for baby jabs was ordered to remove misleading material by the advertising standards agency.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19163717

If you've read the book you may recall that he goes over each vaccine, it's history, and it's ingredients. You may recall the incident in Cornwall in 1988 in which many residents of suffered from the effects of aluminum. You may also recall that 8 week baby vaccines contain something like 200% the RDA for an adult. Now put those two things together and tell me it isn't wrong. Tell me it's safe. He gives a several other examples. You can dispute fact, unfortunately. You can just choose what you read and ignore what you don't want to hear.

Again, OP, I say vaccinate. It's negligent not to. But learn the facts and ignore Antiscience and pseudoscience claims (which would include all of Wakefields work).

*cant ignore facts
*overdose of aluminum from water

Thank you Ilostit Illness is strange as in how it rips people apart. You see exdh could not accept the fact that Daisy had gone to a better place and he turned to drink. Eventually we split up. I will always love him but not the drink.
Brief summary but you get what I mean.
I am humbled by everyone's responses thank you

Oh sugar

I had single vaccines with my eldest (nearly 14 now), as the MMR debate was raging back then and he'd had a few hospital visits by 18 months for fevers & breathing.

My youngest (now nearly 11) had the MMR triple jab as he was a well & healthy baby with no problems.

Both boys got the triple jab booster as I was happy that they were both generally well at the point that was due.

I had to travel hundreds of miles to go privately for the single jabs all those years ago as the doctors had been told they were not allowed to do single shots, and now they're not all available?
I suspect that a large percentage of those who won't vaccinate with the triple jab would happily use singles, but that option has been totally removed now - why? To prove a point?

Single jabs for MMR are discouraged, as far as I know, for the following reasons..

The MMR vaccine is designed to work more efficiently when combined.

When given in single doses, there is more time left between jabs when the child is exposed to the illnesses.

Some parents may be tempted to pick and chose which to give their child, due to cost, time restrainsts or the mistaken belief that some vaccines are more important than others.

It is worth noting that the regulations surrounding introducing any new drug or vaccine into the country are extremely strict. Years of extensive research is required before a vaccine is passed.

My DD reacts badly to vaccines. We split mmr from the other ones given at a year old, but so far it has been the one she has reacted least to!

a lot of the hot air is because people want to be told that vaccination is 100% safe. It isn't. Nothing is. You and ickle preshus are going to die of something, and meantime life is a risk. No-one reputable will tell you that anything is 100% safe.

those who didn't waste their education and have open minds are able to judge relative risk. For most people, it is much lower risk to have vaccines. Not everyone, but most.

apparently I had a convulsion (that's a fit, isn't it?) after my measles jab in the 1960s. I'm fine, although the part of my brain that should allow me to tolerate ignorant fuckwittery seems to have suffered. Or maybe I never had it. Who knows?

Why is 3-in-1 (MMR) worse than 4-in-1 at 8 weeks.

Your neighbour and NCT friend are idiots.

Ime of mn vax threads is that both sides fail to distinguish between correlation and causation and anecdote and evidence.