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To be a bit worried and consider splitting the m m r jabs

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scarednoob · 15/02/2016 19:07

DD is only 5 months but it is playing on my mind already, as a fair few people have said they won't be vaccinating their babies at all and hinted ominously about doing my research.

I had measles quite badly as a little girl; i wouldn't wish it on anyone. So I am certainly not saying she won't be having the jabs. But from the reading I'm doing, the m m r does seen like a lot to give a little body all in one go.

I was wondering what people thought - is there any benefit to spreading them out? Am I being daft/unreasonable to worry? (I know it would mean going privately; that's not an issue.)

Thanks all!

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scarednoob · 15/02/2016 20:17

Thanks all, that really helps. I have a tendency to be swayed easily and as a PP said, the anti vaxxers have a v passionate rhetoric!

She has had the other jabs (well, 2 out of 3, but the delay is just down to the nurse being away and Christmas, not due to me worrying), but I got the impression the mmr was more traumatic.

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DancingDinosaur · 15/02/2016 20:20

You can't get all the single jabs anyway now, so thats not really an option. I waited until my children were a little bit older before getting the MMR.

ollieplimsoles · 15/02/2016 20:23

Yeah its best to stay away from it op, I wasted a lot of time listening to them and getting depressed over it.

I wish I would have just had her vaccinated and it finished with.

Marilynsbigsister · 15/02/2016 20:25

I worked in Thai/ Burma refugee camps in the 90's . Measles seemed like such a benign childhood disease until I saw the awful awful consequences... Children may or may not have been 'made' autistic by the MMR (I personally think it's nonsense and has been widely discredited) .. But to my mind, I would rather an autistic, loving, wonderful dsc , than he was blind, deaf and severely brain damaged. Really ? Do you need to even think about it ?

VagueIdeas · 15/02/2016 20:30

I'll listen to an anti-vaxxer telling me to do my research once they've done a medical degree.

VagueIdeas · 15/02/2016 20:34

but I got the impression the mmr was more traumatic

It's REALLY not.

It's a vaccination like any other.

Personally, I was more taken aback (alarmed would be too strong a word) by the new Meningitis B vaccine, for which babies get a dose of Calpol before it even goes in. That was a new one on me (first baby born 2011), the idea that fever was inevitable and you needed to treat it immediately. Anyway, I digress: DC2 still got it.

gobbynorthernbird · 15/02/2016 20:38

I would have two aunts now if the MMR had been available in my DGM time. As it is, one was stillborn and the other lived until 6 with terrible brain damage and was deaf and blind. I cannot believe that people are exposing their DC and any immunosuppressed people to these hideous risks.

ModreB · 15/02/2016 20:39

Some kids react badly to vaccinations. DS3 was one of these, every vac when he was a baby resulted in fits. I refused the MMR on this basis, wanted single vaccines, spread apart. I had nothing else, but was refused as apparently I was paranoid as DS2, 7 years older, had diagnosed ASD. Which was never the case. DS3 had an obvious immune issue with vaccinations. There are no underlying health issues at all.

DS3 had the MMR last year, he was 14yo. He collapsed with a mega high temperature (41.5) within 4 hours. Hospitalised, and they said they had never seen such an extreme reaction to a vaccination.

Yesterday he had a meningitis and TB vacc. He again collapsed within 4 hours with a massively high temperature, (41.5) and again hospitalised. We are home now, but I would never, ever let him have another vaccination.

Vaccination worked brilliantly with DS1 and 2. DS3, they never let DS3 have the chance to test his immune system.

writingonthewall · 15/02/2016 20:42

I waited until my children were a little bit older before getting the MMR.

I'm sure when they grow up they will be thrilled to know that you were happy to leave them exposed to potentially fatal diseases for longer than necessary.

trixymalixy · 15/02/2016 20:44

My DC both are anaphylactic to egg, and I was really worried about the mmr as it contains egg so I delayed until they were both 3 as I felt when they were bigger their bodies would cope with it better. I did fret quite a lot about them getting measles though.

ZiggyFartdust · 15/02/2016 20:45

Get the vaccinations, ditch the idiot friends.

trilbydoll · 15/02/2016 20:49

DD1 has had the MMR and we paid privately for MenB, for us, MenB had worse after effects. Assuming your dc has had that in the usual vacc schedule, I wouldn't worry about the mmr!

I looked into singles but you can't get them all and as dd was going to nursery I wanted her vaccinated against as much as possible.

madamginger · 15/02/2016 20:50

My ds1 slept Through his mmr vaccination Hmm he had a jab in each leg and barely stirred.

Allisgood1 · 15/02/2016 21:00

While there is no credible research proving the mmr is anything to do with autism, I sit on the fence. Can I just add that it's all vaccines (particularly the combined ones) that I'm worried about, not just the MMR.

Personally, I think it's irresponsible not to vaccinate, so I do. I just do it on a slightly different timescale than what the government tells us to. If in doubt I recommend reading "the truth about vaccines" by Richard Halvorson. It's not full of bs, it's full of research and historical facts about vaccines. He has a clinic in London called Baby Jabs which is quite expensive but you can book him just for a consultation if you are worried. I personally went for a delayed vaccination schedule but you do have options.

ZiggyFartdust · 15/02/2016 21:04

So he makes lots of money by convincing you to vaccinate to a slightly different schedule? And you buy his book as well as paying for his clinic?
I can't imagine what motivation he might have for telling you to do it his way.....

Allisgood1 · 15/02/2016 21:11

Hi Ziggy. Actually his book doesn't convince anyone to do anything, at least not me. And his clinic got 0 from me as I never attended Smile I simply spoke to my GP about what I read, his response was "fair enough" and we agreed the modified schedule.

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scarednoob · 15/02/2016 21:17

DD did not enjoy men b; we ended up in a&e as her poor little leg swelled up like a balloon.

Yes, there are lots of people who don't vax. My neighbour was lecturing me on it today, saying it's all about making money, and one of my NCT group isn't vaccinating her son - on the basis that the diseases are eradicated now.

They're not. Your son is less at risk because most other babies have the jabs....

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tilder · 15/02/2016 21:17

I expect he (or his minions) spent ages talking you through it all too. All very reassuring. Nothing to do with the fact that they need to make sure you have given full informed consent before hand.

ollieplimsoles · 15/02/2016 21:18

The 'baby jabs' guy was also the reason why I pushed my dd's vaccines back, I wish I hadn't now.

My friend's 8 week old baby got whooping cough, he was hospitalised just days before going for his first jabs, it was absolutely terrible. I felt awful for pushing my DD's back and booked her in that day for urgent catch up.

I agree totally with ziggy One anti vax woman told me that the vaccine companies want children to be ill, so they can sell more medicines, then told me about some 'doctor' who does talks and writes books about how she thinks vaccines are linked to kidney problems. Never heard so much bs in my life. Never occurred to her that this doctor woman may have just stumbled on a very easy way to make money herself...

tilder · 15/02/2016 21:18

Apologies allisgood1. I just get very irritated by people who make money in that way.

ZiggyFartdust · 15/02/2016 21:19

and one of my NCT group isn't vaccinating her son - on the basis that the diseases are eradicated now

Some people are too stupid for words. Measles isn't eradicated, or mumps, or rubella, or meningitis. Babies die from measles and meningitis, and not "somewhere else" but in London, and Manchester, and Edinburgh.
Why would you share air with people this daft?

ollieplimsoles · 15/02/2016 21:20

They're not. Your son is less at risk because most other babies have the jabs....

My neighbour has the same attitude, won't vaccinate her son because apparently 'The diseases are easily treatable and lasting side effects from them are rare'...side effects from immunisations are even rarer though...

BasinHaircut · 15/02/2016 21:22

There really is no vaccination conspiracy to make all babies ill or make them autistic. The childhood vaccination programme really does save lots of lives.

Did you know at the time of the First World War, 2 otherwise healthy children died of measles in England every day? Aside from the recent outbreaks that are the consequences of the Dr Andrew Wakefield's fiasco, it's virtually unheard of now. THAT is amazing.

x2boys · 15/02/2016 21:23

If your worried about autism it's complete bollocks I held off with mmr untill ds2 was coming up for school age by which time he had been diagnosed with autism. ..

Myredcardigan · 15/02/2016 21:28

Tbf, the Wakefield stuff was handled very badly by the government. Both our consultant and the immunologist agreed with that. Instead of a blanket statement saying this man is talking rubbish, ignore. They should have said, ok, we will revert to singles whilst we investigate. Please still have the single measles at 12/13mths whilst we look into this. In the long run it would have saved them money and prevented the hordes of people who panicked and refused to vaccinate at all thus putting their own children and those around them who couldn't be vaccinated at risk.