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To be gobsmacked by this article?

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Babycham1979 · 09/02/2016 13:01

So, I promised myself I'd stop reading the Guardian, but I couldn't resist. Today, I found myself reading this gem;

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/feb/08/black-women-mental-health-high-rates-depression-anxiety

Now, the distparities in mental health prevalnce and treatment among different social and ethnic groups are serious, and desperately need to be addressed. However, is it just me, or are these not just examples of how to be a normal grown-up of any sex or colour!? More Guardian identitiy politics bullshit!

Zoe, a 27-year-old pharmacist, wrote: “I am treated like I’m odd just for being myself and doing the things I like to do. I’m always viewed through the eyes of people’s narrow-minded expectations.”

Or, "Why do I have to change who I am so that people don’t find me intimidating or aggressive?” wrote Michelle, a 27-year-old teacher. “It’s tiring to have to always conform to get ahead.”

And, “I can’t embrace who I am, fully,” typed Grace, a 24-year-old PA. “I need to make sure people are always comfortable with me.”

OP posts:
larazopf · 09/02/2016 17:40

"She was not mad. She was calculating."
OK that still make shouting in the workplace completely unacceptable. Anyone shouting at my workplace would get involved with HR.

"Unfortunately for he she had me to deal with and I dealt with her extremely efficiently"
Not sure what to make of this as this Confused I have no idea whether you are white or brown or black but this statement sounds, to me, hostile and aggressive.

MistressDeeCee · 09/02/2016 17:53

Babycham you've just proved my point. Its the usual "jeeeez" hysteria

You seem to have decided that I'm white

"Puts on specs" nope, sorry..can't see anywhere in what I wrote that mentions your race, colour etc.. nothing at all. You didn't make any fanfare announcement re what race you are so I wouldn't know. Or even care. Very telling you mentioned a non-existent race and colour comment, however. So, um.. projecting much? Wink

Id put money on you not having written any such dissertation too, you in no way sound informed enough on a subject you purport to have studied in-depth. I assume comparison of various research studies - of which there are numerous - would have been involved. You appear to have no insight into any of them because you haven't read them . Many other posters have I see, and even without have the sense to not pretend to wear blinkers in life. If you really did write it (which I doubt) your head researcher/supervisor's eyebrows must have reached hairline and beyond reading it

I'll hide thread now and leave you to get your jollies here and to get back to your Guardian reading again. Point proven methinks nothing to see here

AdrenalineFudge · 09/02/2016 17:53

Babycham1979 I'm not going to comment any further on this thread and I'll leave it here with this: I do honestly think you are a racism apologist. I don't think you have any insight what-so-ever and it doesn't matter what race you actually are be it white, black, mixed or anything else. I think you are an apologist. I can only hope you become more enlightened and break out of your tunnel vision.

Vixxfacee · 09/02/2016 17:55

Words used to describe black women which wouldn't necessarily be used to describe a white woman in the exact situation.

Agressive
Intimidating
Facety
Ghetto
Rude
Chip on shoulder
Attitude

Mistigri · 09/02/2016 18:19

get back to your Guardian reading again

The OP has a real bee in her bonnet about the Graun's reporting of stories with a race/ culture angle, this isn't the first guardian-bashing thread she's been on this week. And she makes it very difficult to have an honest exchange (I see there has been no response to the person who cited the literature on the previous page. Dissertation my arse.)

MrsDeVere · 09/02/2016 19:01

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

whatdoIget · 03/03/2016 17:12

The women in the article are clearly talking about the way they are perceived, not the actual way they behave, eg that they have to behave 10 times "better" than white women in order to get a basic level of acceptance in their professional lives. Is the op being deliberately goady maybe?

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