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To not feel sorry for this man begging for money on the road

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bellaSorela · 04/02/2016 20:24

by the great Cambridge road and saw a man with a sign saying:
"I have no food or money, I have 2 children, I don't speak any English, please help me"

He was looking at us as we were the nearest car to him, my friend wanted to give him money and i said NO don't give him anything and she wanted me to give him the money as i was the driver and the man was on my side but i said no and drove off.
She thinks i was harsh for this but all i was thinking is, if you don't speak English and have no money, how and why are you here?

Do you think i'm wrong for this?

I'm the same with beggers in general, I use to give money but you give money to one the rest will come, like at my local shopping park which junkies have over taken, knocking on peoples windows for money when you are waiting to leave the car park because people are always giving them money now they harass everyone.

maybe i am harsh?

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TheFlis12345 · 05/02/2016 17:58

"nobody begs for fun"

Maybe not for fun, but some certainly do it for untoward reasons. There was a guy in the paper a few years ago who lived in a nice house in Surrey, drove his Audi to the station every day, paid the full fare to get to London then changed in station toilets into dirty clothes etc. then went to his usual patch on Southbank to beg (he even used to pay for a locker to keep his stuff in!). He was taking home up to £1500 day in hard cash, paying no tax.

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Whitney168 · 05/02/2016 17:59

Why are people concerned with money being spent on drink or drugs? Seriously they are on the street, the drink /drugs take the pain away for a while, take the cold away, allows them sleep and allows them a bit of respite from their situation.

Because it really doesn't help the recipient, and because people (well, me certainly) has no intention of fuelling the drug trade and all its abuses, perhaps?

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intothebreach · 05/02/2016 22:46

I've been reading this thread, and feeling rather sad. I want to tell you a story about a bloke I spoke to last week, even though I normally keep things like this to myself.

He was sat outside McDonald's, next to a bin. I am skint myself, and normally walk past beggars with a mumbled "sorry", because I simply can't afford to hand out money, even though I know there are plenty of people who could do with the odd quid, and won't spend it on special brew. .

I am aware of the problems with folk who are addicts and feckless and beg for a living. I have known a few personally, what with my line of work and the neighbourhood I live in. Each one of those people has their own story, and it's not my place to judge them, but I do know I wouldn't be helping by giving them money directly.

Still, this young man looked different, and I couldn't just walk on by. I did the usual "sorry" and shrug, but walking past again a few minutes later, I stopped (with my young children! ) and gave him a fiver. He could probably see from the scruffy way I am dressed that I could ill afford it, and he got quite tearful. He said, "most people wouldn't do this, they think I'm going to spend it on drugs or something. I've never touched that stuff in my life, I'm a worker, but look at me, I'm sat next to a bin, that's all most people think I am". He was only about twenty years old, young enough to be my son, and he looked so broken.

He said, "I won't lie to you, I just got out of prison, I've made mistakes". He had been released without a penny in his pocket, and quite simply had nowhere to go. He had tried the homeless hostels, but felt unsafe there because of all the injecting drugs and general atmosphere there.

He asked me if I could recommend a church. He said, "I went to the cathedral, but I just wasn't feeling it, they didn't want to know". I suggested a couple that I knew were committed to helping the homeless, but he said, "no, I don't want any of that patronising shit, I just want somewhere they won't judge me. I want to go back to church". In the end, I thought of a good evangelical place where I am confident they will welcome him with hugs and not care about the state of his clothes or his past.

I'm telling you this not to make myself seem like some kind of do-gooder (I'm not!!) but because he was a young man with a story and a life and hopefully with a future. Judging by the responses on this thread, 90% of you would have walked past him, decided to give a tenner to shelter instead and then forgotten.

How dare we judge? Yes, there are many scammers out there, but there are also lots of genuine people who need a smile, five minutes conversation and some recognition that they are human.

This is just one story. I don't make a general habit of chatting to beggars because I have a lot going on in my own life and two small boys who need me, but I could tell you dozens of similar stories about beggars I have chatted to over the years. The man who had fled political persecution, all his family had been killed, he had taught in a university... The girl who didn't ask for money, but just asked for a bite of the bhaji I was eating... The chap who protected me from drunken revellers when I was young - he had only been homeless for a week, and seemed more concerned about the effect on his dog than for himself ("he's a soft living dog"). The man who spoke ten languages and had worked for gchq for years until his wife died and he didn't know how to cope any more.

Who are we to judge?

Yes, as a general rule, we are better off giving to proper charities. But we shouldn't lose sight of each one of these beggars being human, just as valuable as each one of us. It's just so wrong to see ourselves as any better than them. We are all vulnerable to circumstances.

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Cerseirys · 05/02/2016 23:12

My parents are Sri Lankan, so obviously there have always been beggars around as they grew up. My mum used to regularly give money to one elderly beggar she saw as he used to talk to her and was curiously well-spoken. It turned out that he had been a teacher for most of his life but fallen on hard times and had to resort to begging. No doubt he's long dead now but that does kind of go to show that it could happen to any of us, not just "druggies or junkies", as some so eloquently put it.

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Dollymixtureyumyum · 06/02/2016 04:49

Can quite believe the post about putting the homeless in prisonHmm
How can anyone think that is a solution to put people in prison without trial I just thinks that is a disgusting and dangerous attitude. What if it was your son or daughter (and you never know own day it could be). This it will never happens to me attitude makes me sick and is the prime reason why this country is becoming more and more selfish and self-centred.
Why don't we go the whole hog and bring back workhouses or maybe even places like bedlam so us respectable citizens can go and have a laugh at the undeserving poor Hmm
They are human beings for gods sake.
Reminds me of that line from animal farm "we are more equal but some are more equal than others"

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