To think this man should not be allowed to bring his "show" to the UK?

[evilcherub]

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/militant-pro-rape-pick-up-artist-has-organised-events-in-eight-uk-cities-a6846716.html

I don't quite understand how misogynist PUAs like Roosh see a plan to make entering men's homes count as legal consent, long-term.

In the short-term, it means they can rape women with impunity, but in the long-term, once society had adjusted to that rule, once women had started "protecting themselves" as he charmingly puts it (I'd say, "started living a socially restricted life due to being born female"), he and his followers would find picking women up at bars far harder, and being "pick-up-artists" is their seeming raison d'être.

*see how the plan... will work, long-term.

Apparently there's one in Leeds. To get in you have to go to Millennium square and ask "where the pet shop is" to get directed to the event...

He is deeply homophobic as well. Perhaps he should be allowed to come and speak-we should get gay men to populate the audience exclusively and start trying aggressive pick-up techniques on him.

His message is a familiar one-dreams of power and glory for men who have none, spiced with an overweening sense of grievance and served with lashings of misplaced optimism at the chances of actually getting any sex.

On a separate note, hasn't Reggie Yates grown up into a nice young man?

Reggie Yates must have massive cojones for that docu he did on the right wing maniacs in Russia.
I'm full of admiration for the fella. Growing up in Peckham makes you tough but being the only black man at a Nazi rally takes a special kind of bottle.

he and his followers would find picking women up at bars far harder, and being "pick-up-artists" is their seeming raison d'être

Ah, but they all think they're brilliant strategists who cunningly dupe stupid unsuspecting women into letting them violate their boundaries enough to trick them into sex.

And they also think they don't have to go to a bar, they can do in a coffee shop or a supermarket, and mark themselves out of ten on sad online forums for the cleverness and audacity of it.

YANBU times a million. How is he even being allowed into the UK in the first place if he's planning pro-rape rallies?

There's apparently one of the meet ups for these events planned in a big city near where I live. One of the local papers has helpfully given the location of the meeting place, but not the location of the follow-up place. If they're right about the location of the meet up, it's in a very public place which will have plenty of unsuspecting passers by stumbling over it.

Someone mentioned a petition about not letting him into Scotland upthread. Is there any petition that covers England too?

You can't get a Scottish visa, can you? (I'm not being sarcastic, just not 100%, but I don't think so)

I think if a petition successfully petitions the Home Office they can refuse him a UK visa which will cover England, Wales, Scotland and NI.

Good point venus

YANBU. This man and his kind are sickening. YY to encouraging gay men to fill his audience!

I'm v glad the other man was banned from entering the UK. Hopefully this one will be too!

Grey I spent last night reading that forum. Then couldn't sleep, then woke up this morning feeling really sick and upset about the whole thing.

They score the women out of 10, and post their (estimated) weight and bra size (which are of course all "90lbs with perky C tits", uh-huh) and the amount of time it took them from meeting, to getting "the bang", and how they broke down the "LMR" and "smashed her". They also try to collect "flags" (girls with different nationalities).

LMR, last minute resistance, is when the girl they have "gamed" decides that she doesn't want to have sex. They talk about tactics to ignore that and get sex anyway by not taking no for an answer.

They call all the women sluts and whores, talk about forcing it into virgins who cry in pain. Or women who cry afterwards because they didn't really want to have sex and the guy just kicks them out.

I know most of it is possibly exaggerated or completly made up, but I just can't shake that some of it is real. And there are women who suffer this on nights out.

He absolutely should not be allowed to spread this sort of thing here. It's bad enough it's online.

If anyone is interested, I came across this petition on Facebook.

God that forum is sad, sad, sad. What a bunch of total losers.

He was on the news here in Canada this morning - all the city mayors are getting together to try and stop it. Falls under Hate Crime they reckon.

What a charmer

he's pathetic.

It's not free speech. It's hate speech and incitement to sexual violence.

He will love the attention, but it can't go unchallenged.

Some UK crimes carry a higher sentence if racially or religiously aggravated. We should have the same for sexism.

www.returnofkings.com/78021/full-city-listing-and-meeting-points-for-international-meetup-day

There's a list of all the meet-up points that they're planning globally. All on the same day at the same time so there must be plenty of men willing to attend even if we don't allow him into the country

He's got rid of the London meet-up points but I know one was outside Bank station, I can't remember the other location but it was also a really public one.

Does anybody know if any counter-protests have been set up anywhere?

Narcissistic, inadequate little fuckwit.

He seems to think protests are likely at most of those UK locations.

He's from America and since the Americans put Joe McCarthy behind them it's been almost impossible to deny a US citizen a US passport - which is as it should be. The USA is not East Germany. But he's not representing America.

And other countries don't have to let him in. However: he can "appear" by video link even if he can't get into the country and if he does, he does.

I really want to go and send loads of stupid rapey men to a real pet shop. Alas, they wouldn't ask me.

Hopeless pathetic men like this do need to go on some sort of training course. But not one in picking women up and extorting some sort of barely consensual sex act out of them. They need to learn about what women really like and respect about a man. And how sex is much much better for both people when women actually want it. Because you know, we do like it, it's not something they have to con us into by acting like a knob.

My DD is in Uni and has made friends with a young Muslim boy in her flat. He asked a girl out, to the cinema, for the first time in his life, and asked DD for some advice. She said, "Be nice, be sweet and be yourself. Girls really like nice respectful boys." And he was actually quite shocked because he'd really bought into this stupid culture of being alpha and macho to get anywhere with a girl. It's very worrying.