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AIBU to have expected DP to come home in time?

63 replies

CampariSpritz · 29/01/2016 14:02

I'd really appreciate some views here ladies. I'm really upset about an admittedly minor incident last night and I would like a few impartial views on whether I have over-reacted.

I work four days a week. DD (13 months) is looked after by my mother for two of those days and a lovely nanny for the other two. I always do 'drop off' (i.e. wait for Mum or our nanny to arrive at 8am) whilst DP leaves earlier. We both have an hour's commute and we both do similar jobs (lawyers). We share the 'pick ups' (i.e. being back by 7-7.30pm to relieve Mum or nanny). Last night was DP's turn and I was meant to being going out to dinner with friends. As it happens, I had work to do and DD has been a bit poorly so I wanted to tuck her in, so I came home earlier. I didn't tell DP as it was a bit of a last minute decision and in any case, he was due to do pick up. I get home at 7.15 and our nanny says 'oh you must have spoken to DP as he has just rung to say he will be back at 9pm'. It turns out that DP was in the pub and has had a few drinks (he did dry January so he sounded tipsy).

I was mortified as our nanny's contractual hours are 8am-7.30pm. She will stay longer for emergencies (i.e. train problems or unforeseen issues at work) or pre-booked babysitting but she isn't on call to stay later.

DP's view is that a couple of hours doesn't hurt, as we often arrive earlier, which means she can leave earlier. We were also away last Friday, which meant she had the day off. I didn't count this as part of her annual leave, as she was available to work that day, it is just that we didn't need childcare. DP came home steaming drunk at 11pm and we had a row.

I feel he has been really unkind and unthoughtful, as well as a bit deceitful (for not telling me that he was going out). He says that my reaction is completely over the top. I feel strongly that our nanny is not at our beck and call: by 7.30pm she has done nearly 12 hours and it is time for her to go home and have her dinner. I am so teary by his conduct: I really thought he was a kinder, better person that that.

Extra details to avoid drip feeding:

  • DP is going out tonight and tomorrow night (planned for a long time) for 'big nights out' so he really didn't deserve an impromptu session. I, on the other hand, haven't had a night out in ages.
  • This is quite out of character for him: he has always taken his pick up duties seriously and has only been late twice (by fifteen minutes).
  • He isn't a nurturing type, but he normally is not this lacking in thoughtfulness. That said, his mother worked and they always had au pairs; he rather takes it for granted that we have help in the home (shirts ironed, cleaner, I buy all the food and organise the house).
  • He drinks a fair bit on nights out, which alters his character (or rather a more unpleasant side comes out - but never abusive etc). His boys' nights out can get messy.

Sorry for the length of this...but I feel let down and I can't really speak to my friends about this. Our nanny is kind, hard working and deserves to be treated nicely I would like to keep this relationship for years to come, as the level and continuity of care benefit DD. DP and I are due to get married later this year but I feel rather blue about the whole thing...feel like I have made my bed and now I have to lie in it.

OP posts:
Iguessyourestuckwithme · 31/01/2016 11:41

I hope your dh has apologised to your nanny.

Lightbulbon · 31/01/2016 11:53

Don't marry him!

If he's lying to you about this what else is he lying about?

It's the lying that's the deal breaker for me here.

I wouldn't feel I could trust a dp who sneaked around behind my back.

Was dd planned? It doesn't sound as if he's prepared to adjust his life to accommodate prioritising a child.

If she's ill why does he not want to see her? It sounds like he's not bothered about not seeing much of either of you? Does this man child actually make you/dd feel loved? Do you feel stuck with him because of dd? You really dont have to put up with this. You have a good career and financial freedom, doors are open to you.

Eminado · 31/01/2016 12:00

Wow OP i feel for you dealing with this. Good nannies are hard to find.

The attempt to deceive, selfishness, poor prioritisation and sheer sense of entitlement would be very hard for me to swallow. He has been an utter shit.

Hope DD is better and Flowers for you.

SwearySwearyQuiteContrary · 31/01/2016 12:02

It's not ok for your DH to just spring it on an employee that they have to stay longer than their contracted hours. It's entirely irrelevant that you may have given her a day extra off or let her go home early some time ago (which I presume was because of our own scheduling rather than hers). The nanny has her own life too.

I'd point out to your DH that decent Childcare is bloody hard to find and that if he doesn't treat her with the respect I presume he manages to give to his colleagues every day, you might end up needing to find a new nanny.

Iguessyourestuckwithme · 31/01/2016 17:30

As a nanny I am glad parents seem on the nannies side on this :)

BYOSnowman · 31/01/2016 17:45

This is the person you are leaving with the most precious thing on the world to you! Finding someone you trust and your child loves is such a big deal it's really not on for him to jeopardise that

BlondeOnATreadmill · 31/01/2016 17:53

He was really taking this piss with your Nanny. That's just not on. She has her own life, past 7.30pm.

I would be wondering why a night out was needed, when two are coming up. And he didn't want you to know. Other woman?

Blondeshavemorefun · 31/01/2016 20:11

im a nanny and this would have totally annoyed me

to be about to leave work at what should be your finishing time then have the employer call say im going out/in pub

yes maybe he asked her and said would you mind if i stayed our/came home late/can you babysit?

maybe she was ok with bs? dd was prob in bed so just be a case of watching tv etc

have you asked nanny what he said and did she mind?

and yes if you are going to be late and know you need to leave the office at 5.30 to be home at 7, you ring and grovel at 5.00 if know you wont be leaving on time

trains are late etc it happens, but if you know then let the nanny know

we have to stay, we cant leave the child home alone

but also if he told nanny he would be back at 9pm but came in at 11, not knowing you were home

its also the deceit, why not text you and say im going out for a drink, asked nanny and she happy to stay on

Iguessyourestuckwithme · 31/01/2016 20:49

Well said blondes

CampariSpritz · 31/01/2016 21:49

Thank you all for suggestions and thoughts, which are appreciated. I told him yesterday morning that this must never happen again. It took more discussion (rowing) than I would have liked (he still couldn't see that if you ask someone twenty minutes before you are due to be home, when you are an hour away, then you really aren't giving them a choice. I told him that he had let himself down with a lack of honesty and had acted without integrity. That finally made him shamefaced and contrite. He now realises that DD's nanny cannot be treated with any less consideration and kindness than our respective mothers. I will be monitoring this though and I have told our nanny to ring me if he ever pulls this kind of crap again.

On the point someone made up thread about whether there is any point having children if you work: I'm trying very hard to juggle both motherhood and my job so that DD isn't short changed. It isn't easy: I've been out twice on a weekday night since I went back to work six months ago and we've only left DD with my parents overnight four times in 14 months. I don't exercise anymore as I feel my weekends should be with DD. I asked work if I could work one of my four days from home but they said no. I'm last round for a job which would be more flexible so we shall see. Saving two hours a day on the commute would mean more time with DD. The problem is (and I think someone noted this up thread) that the Law is not very family friendly: I took eight months off and I got comments about how long I'd taken off. There is no possibility of taking a few years out. I earn a lot more than DP so staying in our home would not be an option if I didn't work. I also wouldn't be able to save for DD and provide for her the way I can do at the moment. I do think actual presence is worth a great deal so, as I imagine it is the case for most people, you have to seek the best balance you can for your family, recognising that life is never perfect.

OP posts:
Eminado · 31/01/2016 21:54

Campari please don't feel the need to justify your work choices to a random on the internet. You really have no need to. Those comments were totally unnecessary and very simplistic.

You sound like a good mum. Good luck for the more flexible role.

I hope your husband has given his head a wobble.

HeddaGarbled · 31/01/2016 21:59

Bless you, OP, how tiresome that in 2016, you have to justify your choice to have children and ..... horrors ...... work as well Sad

Veritat · 31/01/2016 22:08

I'm amazed that anyone in this day and age assumes that their nanny has no life of her own and will always be happy to stay late on no notice at all. How can anyone with half a brain seriously believe that?

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