A good car parking one .....

[PositivePete]

There is a car parked outside my house, it's been there 2 weeks, not moved at all. It's a bit "old" shall we say.

It has every right to be there as it's a public road.

But it's right outside my fucking front door.

Should I A. Leave alone & not do anything i.e. Ring the council or B. Ring the council as there could be a dead body in it or C. Pretend it's not there?

There are Xmas presents in it, the door handle is broken & no joke .... Straw hanging out the boot!?!

I have no right to moan as I said it's a public road, but it is right outside my front door. It's been there and genuinely nobody has been there for 2 weeks.

AIBU to ring the council to tell them it's an abandoned car or mind my own sodding business?

The three little pigs might be living in that straw. That's a fair few dinners.

Wonder if Tom hardy likes pork chops?

Nosy neighbour. I have 2 extra cars outside which are family members who are abroad.
As long as taxed and insured it's none of your business.

People like you really piss me off. Why aren't their cars outside their own damn houses? Why do you think it's OK to inconvenience your neighbours instead? If you did this in my street, and took up two very valuable parking spaces in a road where parking is limited, I'd have them towed away.

If you did this in my street, and took up two very valuable parking spaces in a road where parking is limited, I'd have them towed away.

then you would be arrested for stealing cars. they are parked legally, you cant touch them

I live in a limited parking area. We have no possibility of private parking, no driveway or other space.

Currently there are no restrictions and people come and go during the day and we all park in 'our' spaces overnight. It is all very friendly, everyone makes do and nobody is too possessive about who parks where.

But if someone were to come along and continually park their 'spare' cars here, so that we residents couldn't park near our own homes, we would simply get it changed to residents only. That would piss off and inconvenience a lot of people, many of whom currently use it as a sort of unofficial 30 minutes or less parking space or for workday parking. None of which annoys the residents.

That is the usual consequence of people who are arrogant, selfish parking gits. The 'fuck you, it's taxed' brigade tend to be quite unpleasant in other ways too, I have noticed, out here in RL.

Missing point of thread, but the road where I live in London is near a station. There is no residents parking here, but just about every street around us does have residents parking....so everyone parks here. Complete pain. I've asked the council if we can have the dubious privilege of paying £160pa for a parking permit, but they aren't going to revisit for a year....status quo and zero parking for residents remains. 😫

Checked on the DVLA website

Same here, Radiator. That's why people like the selfish PP who has her relative's cars in front of her house, taking up spaces that should be available to people who actually live there, boil my piss. Why, exactly? Are they too precious to park them outside their own house while they go on holiday?

SavoyCabbage

Well it can't be insured with no MOT or tax.

Why not?

In order for your insurance to be valid the cat must have a valid MOT.
Or it used to!!

Car....not cat.

Having no tax or MOT would invalidate the insurance of any car parked on a public road. It would need to be SORNED & parked on private property.

poorbuthappy
In order for your insurance to be valid the car must have a valid MOT.

Nope.

Imagine a car has been off the road for a few years and then needs to be driven to a (booked) MOT - insurance must be valid to do so and no MOT is in force.

Insurance policies will very likely state that the vehicle must be roadworthy, which is not the same as having a valid MOT (an MOT is not certification that a vehicle is roadworthy, just that it passed the test as presented on that day).

balletgirlmum

Having no tax or MOT would invalidate the insurance of any car parked on a public road.

Not automatically, only if stated in the policy.

"People like you really piss me off. Why aren't their cars outside their own damn houses? "

She only said they were relatives. For all we know, they might live with her so are parking outside their own house.

Also, not all cars are required to be taxed (and not all are required to be MOT'd).

Yes, the insurance will be valid to drive a car with no MOT to a booked appointment but it will be invalidated if that car were to be in any kind of accident whilst parked on a public road with no MOT or driven anywhere other than directly to the booked MOT centre.

The screenshot stated the MOT expired in June 2015. So obviously not a new car not requiring an MOT.

If the car was tax exempt the screenshot would state something different than untaxed.

balletgirlmum

Yes, the insurance will be valid to drive a car with no MOT to a booked appointment but it will be invalidated if that car were to be in any kind of accident whilst parked on a public road with no MOT or driven anywhere other than directly to the booked MOT centre.

Really? I've not come across that one during my 17 years working in insurance. Have you got a link to any sources?

Why did we have to take our MOT to the post office to get tax then?

Also Google does throw up both answers to the question!

That's a genuine question by the way.

balletgirlmum
The screenshot stated the MOT expired in June 2015. So obviously not a new car not requiring an MOT.

If the car was tax exempt the screenshot would state something different than untaxed.

I'm not referring to the car in the OP, I'm referring to the incorrect assertion that no tax or MOT invalidates insurance.

poorbuthappy

Why did we have to take our MOT to the post office to get tax then?

In the old days before databases, buying tax at a post office was (among other things) a method of a government department being able to verify that the legal requirements (insurance and MOT) were in place; that means that tax is dependent on Insurance and MOT; it makes no assertion that insurance is dependent on MOT.

As I stated above, most (if not all) motor policies will have a stipulation that the vehicle must be roadworthy (as above, not the same as an MOT and not even the same as the C&U regulations that the police enforce). Many policies may have a warranty regarding MOTs, but I'm not going to read through every policy to make a blanket statement.

As said, some vehicles do not require tax (or are subject to a zero rate); kit cars can be driven on the road without even being registered in some limited circumstances (you can drive home from a failed IVA, assuming the failure points are minor); however, in every case insurance must be in effect.

The only time a vehicle doesn't need to be insured is if it's a police vehicle (although I'm pretty sure they do insure them all), a crown vehicle (IIRC) or if you've deposited a ludicrous amount of money (quarter or half a million, if memory serves) with the treasury (or 'Paymaster General' as my CII course termed it, although I don't think I've seen that term anywhere else).

We had a small van parked opposite for three weeks. Eventually, a neighbour called the police. Turned out it had been used in an armed robbery in Essex.

Another time, a car was parked in almost the same spot. A neighbour was going to call the police again, but then it moved. We guessed it had been left when someone had gone on holiday.

I would definitely ring the police.

Comprehensive answer thank you!!

If they haven't bothered to tax or MOT it then the chances of them bothering to insure it are very slim.

I seem to recall that last time I insured my car there was a check made that it was taxed and insured.

A quick internet search shows companies that insure cars which are declared as off the road. Here is one.

www.sorninsurance.co.uk/