AIBU to think that those with disabilities are being hit particularly hard by the cuts ?p

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Just 3 of many grim reports:

Because her care package was slashed, Rachel has to sleep some nights in her wheelchair, in pain, cannot get enough to eat and was diagnosed as malnourished.
Is the aim to kill her off, to save money ?

Luke who had schizophrenia and was unable to perform many simple daily tasks, committed suicide after his incapacity benefit was removed and his housing benefit cut.
Well that worked. He's dead now. No more costs.

Nick who has advanced MS cannot walk, feed himself or talk. The DWP said he would lose his benefits if he did not attend an interview.
Since he can only communicate by blinking, he was saved by having a partner who could phone on his behalf.
Curses, the Master Plan was foiled there.
Never mind, the DWP will try again later. He's too expensive to live.

How did we come to this ?
All in our name ?

I'll freely admit. I'm crying after reading those articles. The treatment of these people is beyond disgusting. But someone voted these wanker toss pots in.
You'd think after David Cameron suffering from the tragic loss of his son. That hed have a bit of compassion for the disabled but evidently not.

Targeting the most vulnerable, but that's bullying cunts for you,

I agree with the majority of the sentiments on this thread. It is getting increasingly worrying how people with disabilities are being treated in the UK. Having said that, I'd like to say that whilst it's very difficult to work with a disability, many disabled people do work and have successful careers. I want to make the point as there is a balance to be struck between being mindful of the difficulties people face and portraying those with disabilities as helpless and hopeless and unable to contribute to our society.

Cuts are hitting supported housing too.

speye.wordpress.com/2016/01/18/social-housing-is-bankrupt-and-nhf-strategy-hastens-insolvency/

All very well saying . People are fit for work because , They can touch their toes and pick up a pen or they know when the battle of Hastings happened, or because they know how to set their alarm clock but, Whose head will roll if heaven forbid a person with severe paranoia for example ends up stabbing someone because they can't handle being around crowds of people. Yes it may seem like I'm being a drama llama but these things can happen.

It's also all very well to talk about PIP being for the cost of disabilities- the largest cost, which hits all disabled people, is being stuck on a fixed income that they can't raise by doing overtime/getting a new job/ promotion and so on. That should be enough of a reason for PIP to be awarded, quite frankly. It's a lifetime cost which limits opportunities for the claimant and for anyone who is caring for and dependent on them. No private pension- they will be left to live on whatever provision is made for the elderly when the time comes. No private treatment that might make their condition easier to live with and facilitate working- PIP isn't enough to cover that when you also have to support a family, pay a mortgage and cover other day to day costs that a wage would usually be used for.

I know that people who are working for low pay feel ill used and downtrodden- and well they should!! The way ordinary working people are treated by the government and big business is appalling. But they need to fight for their own rights, not envy and hate those who can only dream of being able to hold down a minimum wage job.

I wonder if there is any way this governent, CAPITA, ATOS and anyone else involved, could be hauled before a court somewhere (Human Rights?) and made accountable for all this tragedy and trauma? I think they are so cruel and ignorant that they would only 'listen' to a judicial process.

It's a shame politicians can't be called to account for bad or inhumane decisions and legislation resulting from ignorance and dogma. It seems unbearable that so many disabled people and carers have been attacked in this way and that the people who have done this, like Cameron and IDS, would never be made accountable in the same way say, a politician who sanctioned war crimes, might be..? Just wondering if any lawyers anywhere are pursuing a way of stopping this?

Not only how people with disabilities are treated, but people who feel that one disability is "not disabled" enough??? Just because I don't look outwardly disabled and can walk,talk, speak and may be able to hold a job someday does not mean I do not need help.

Utterly shocking lack of compassion. UndramaticPause you should be ashamed.

I'm in the work group for esa. We don't get any money now as dp has got a job but I'm stuck in it for three years. They wanted me to attend every fortnight and look for jobs on the internet that I may be able to do at some point in the future. For two hours. Just looking at jobs but not applying for them. I don't go. I went to the original meeting and haven't been back. I can't sit for that length of time without ending up in agony. There is no parking and would have to walk a fair way, crossing main roads with heavy traffic.

Instead they call me. And ask me if anything has changed. The temptation to say "yes! It's a miracle! My spine healed overnight and this morning I did 16 back flips and finished up with a cartwheels!"

PIP renewal is underway. Asked me to attend next week so rang and explained I'd be in hospital having my spine fused and could they sort a home visit or wait three months. Guy said he wasn't sure if I'd meet the criteria.

I feel like I spend my life justifying myself. And my disabilities.

Spot on Dragonfly

DH has just had the dreaded brown letter about changing to PIP. He has BPD and Fibromyalgia amongst many other things and is currently being investigated for Ehlers Danlos. Since that letter his mood has dropped even further, convincing him it's worth applying for is a massive job, he just wants to hide away. If they remove his Motability car we cannot get to any of his many hospital appointments (we live rurally and public transport is a no go in any case). I have no idea how to support him for the next few months, his ESA (Wrag) was due for renewal last May but we are still waiting.
Life just feels like a nightmare right now.

I feel for you siency. We haven't had the PIP one... yet.

It's a sad day when you find yourself thinking 'thank God my husband's disability can be measured and quantified by the specialists, so at least the DWP can't contest that aspect'. He is actually luckier than someone with mental health or chronic pain conditions, even though he will be blind before he's a pensioner.

YY Ghost Or someone pretends that they are capable of driving when they are not.

Look at the Glasgow bin lorry crash.

That bloke has been pretending he was capable for YEARS And that was BEFORE the cuts.

More and more will take risks like this if it means choosing between this risk and poverty and homelessness.

Twirly

Sounds like my DS who is a year older. We had a phone call from school the other day and were so relieved to hear that he had only physically hurt himself (inc head injury) rather than gone into autistic meltdown because the physical pain is so much easier for him to cope with

Darvany

SiencynArsecandleim in the support group and my renewal was due last April,still havent heard from them but they are still paying mine,somebody said there is a huge backlog

you are not alone

Whilst you all argue amongst yourselves
Don't you think there is an easier way?
I'm looking after someone who can't navigate the world at all, is poorly, disabled, like a baby etc and I look after her really well. Yet I have to justify her existence to everyone. I have to put up with shitters treating her like crap
All of it
The whole bureaucratic nonsense the health and social service not being able to cope with it/her
Where is the box you tick that says . Yes, needs this
Rather than they (mum/family carer) have so much on they may not even remember to apply
So that's a win
But carry on arguing.
Idealistic conservative nonsense has affected my very very very vulnerable child. I hope all of you who voted for them are proud of yourselves
And
In the interim, I've had to give up paying tax, working etc etc. I won't be the only one as the whole logic of the fit a is flawed. It's not affecting so called 'benefit scroungers'
They apparently know how to play the system

The UK has become an irrelevant third world country consumed by narrow superficial values that rank amongst the Trump/Palin values in the USA.

The attitude to disabilities and those with additional needs is truly shocking and something one expects from a period of past history best forgotten. we are becoming regressive not progressive, why should i have to fight for every support needed for my son's needs ? I currently have in a wheelchair that even therapists from Australia are shocked that he is provided with, this will only create problems for him later on as this government does NOT want to INVEST in Disabled children/Adults

Those who moan that a person with disabilities was fit enough to go on a holiday at some time don't seem to realise that to hold down a job you need to be fit enough:

. to work for the agreed hours every week, fulltime would be say 7-8 hrs Monday-Friday
. to manage access, eating and toilet at your work
. to be able to manage transport there and back every day
. and of course to deal with caring for yourself at home - keeping yourself clean, laundry, getting dressed, preparing food etc - so that you look respectable enough at work.

Yanbu. It horrifies me how this country is treating the most vulnerable. The points allocation is an absolute joke. Firstly because the assessment doesn't have to be by anyone whose even heard of the dx, let alone the effects, or even whether it's life limiting. And they massively underscore when they can. So eg someone has the physical ability to move pre-prepared pre-cut food to their mouth. Hey ho 'can feed themselves'. 1 point.

I'm also convinced they target the more vulnerable applicants deliberately, as they are less likely to be in the position to fight it.

I don't have any evidence to prove it, but I've been told some of the hcps doing the assessments have been told to fail as many as possible, where there is a likelihood of getting away with it. As not all will appeal it. Which is just sick as fuck.

I have evidence
shall i start filming it?

I think all but one or two posters are on your side owllady, not arguing.

lurkedforever that wouldn't surprise me. My daughter probably seemed like a perfect target for that- very quiet, apparently very docile and polite mother in assessment with her... unfortunately, the assessor didn't realise that polite isn't the same as stupid, and I hope the level 2 complaint made about her and pursued by my MP gave her at least a few sleepless nights!

At the tribunal, we actually had a DWP rep show up. After looking at the paperwork, he told the Judge he would abide by whatever decision she made. The report was so blatantly false he didn't even want to try challenging us.

I'm always awed at how some Mumsnetters devote themselves to caring for a disabled family member.

However, I shudder to think what happens to those who don't have that vital someone, usually a parent, to care for them and fight for them, or when that parent dies and leaves them on their own.

I was particularly struck by Rachel's story, the first on my OP, because she has noone. So, she is totally dependent on receiving care.

Some threads make me think even Mumsnet represents 2 halves of society:

. Some posters regard it as essential to shower and wash hair daily, to launder towels, pyjamas, even trousers and skirts after epine day's use.
Rachel is left sitting unable to go to the toilet, to wash, to change clothes, to access clean clothes.

. Some posters look down on food not prepared from scratch.
Rachel can't get even one hot meal daily, not even a frozen dinner heated in the miscrowave. She is hungry and malnourished.

I'm sure I recall, in the aftermath of the General Election, several gloating threads from Tory supporters, mocking the "sore losers" whose parties didn't get in, and laughing at those of us who were being "drama queens" or "exaggerating" when we said people would die as a result of this. Oh ha ha, they laughed as they toasted with their champagne. No-one is going to die. Don't be so overdramatic. And we told them in a year's time, they'd see just how wrong they were.

Funny how they're all hiding away now, eh?

DM but:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3411856/Mother-writes-letter-David-Cameron-hanged-facing-eviction-home-Bedroom-Tax-16-year-old-son-killed-himself.html
They don't care! Talk about a box-ticking exercise! :(

This thread won't register with them - they just won't care.

I read that story a few hours ago and it's immeasurably sad, but so typical

David Cameron would be found hanged in a better world and that would be too fucking good for him.