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AIBU with regards to a 'friend'

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glueandstick · 19/01/2016 10:01

I'll start by saying I'm very pregnant, tired, aching and fed up so it may well be clouding my view.

I have a 'friend' I have known for a good decade. She's always been a bit.... Alternative and heavily into religion. I'm the complete opposite of this but each to their own.

Since moving closer to her (not deliberately) we've had many more interactions than previously so perhaps I'm just beginning to notice things.

Firstly she keeps inviting me to church groups that will be super fun and I would love (I wouldn't. I don't do church) so I make polite noises, say thank you for thinking of me but it isn't my thing. This keeps happening. I don't want to snap and tell her what I really think.

She treats the church as an excuse to be a knob to people- if it is in the cause of the church she'll walk over everyone but thinks it's ok because it's for Jesus' sake.

Before Christmas I had a message asking if I wanted to bake and donate a huge amount of cake for a church event that I really should come to! Yet again I declined. She laid it on thick that she has hurt her leg recently but didn't seem bothered that I couldn't physically walk upstairs because of hip pain thanks to being pregnant. I also said that I was trying to cut down on what I was doing as have a habit of over doing everything and wasn't on top form and pretty shattered.

Then she offered to take some old stock from a previous business and sell it at the event (this was for refugees or something. It wasn't something I would have supported as I would have chosen a different route that didn't have such high outgoings before it reaching the charity but that's a different story. I'm not heartless and will help but do like to research first). I wasn't able to go to the event and made it clear that I couldn't just donate it all as it was several hundred pounds worth of stuff and was going to eBay it. She agreed and said she would take it. Then I realise she ignored the bit about it being all for free (she had organised the event) and I got the whole 'but it's supporting the church's good work for others less fortunate' to which I had to reiterate that I was on maternity leave and wouldn't be working for several months and as much as I would love to be that charitable, I have to choose how and where I give. It's long and convoluted but I ended up giving half.

THEN I had an invitation to a boozy Christmas event about an hour and a half from from- but it's ok because I could just have water.

Now I have been asked to go to an event in a couple of weeks for some food bank and expected to help cooking. This is again an hour and a half from home, they want donations too and clearing up. Oh and if you have anything left over from your business we will take it off your hands. When can you deliver it? This is 10 days before my due date.

Then I get a message saying 'oh how fun would it be if you went into labour there?' Yeah fecking loads....

The final straw has been when I mentioned how long it takes to eBay everything (I was quite surprised how time consuming it was!) in regards to some equipment from the business, she mentions she wants to start something similar and can she just have it all (for nothing) and will I go and spend a couple of days teaching her everything about the industry? Preferably in the next month. She'll provide cake!

Am I being unreasonable thinking she just doesn't think about anyone but what she wants to do or am I just being a cow? It has been playing on my mind for a few days now.

Just writing this makes me wonder why I keep bloody bothering.

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glueandstick · 19/01/2016 10:46

You do become a little dismissive of their efforts when it is relentless and you're made to feel guilty for not helping each and every time. I cant fault her dedication to helping the less fortunate, but it would be nice if she could treat people a little closer to home with some respect and not as some form for cash/donation cow.

I'm practicing my waddling as we speak.

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AskingForAPal · 19/01/2016 10:48

"Drop her now and waddle away as fast as you can"

Hahhahahahahahaa but yes, seconded. She's basically a chugger, but in your personal life.

Do you do anything with her that's actually fun and doesn't involve her trying to scavenge your time, energy and belongings?

Honestly I am aghast at her behaviour, especially given you're pregnant. When my friends are heavily pregnant the biggest effort I ask from them is to waddle to a cafe or open their front door when I pop round for tea!

OnlyLovers · 19/01/2016 10:49

She's greedy, insensitive and a user.

You'd be better off without.

Next time she messages you about something like this, be blunt. 'Please stop asking me about church things. You know I'm not interested.'

If she gets the hump, good; she'll be off your back.

Out of interest, has she always been like this or has she joined a new group/got more into religion recently?

Leelu6 · 19/01/2016 10:50

Agree that she shouldn't be hassling you.

Do you value the friendship at all? I think you're going to have to tell her that you're finding it all a bit much. However, she may disappear entirely rather than toning it down.

pictish · 19/01/2016 10:56

Yanbu...she's pushy, overbearing and lacks awareness and boundaries. It just so happens her pet project is charity work, she would be like this whatever she was into.

I think you might have to start giving her gradual radio silence on the requests/churchy and charity stuff. Don't reply to texts or messages about it, you have made yourself clear so don't keep labouring the point. She gets it, she just doesn't care. If she asks you in person just say, "Oh no...I can't be thinking about any of that." and change the subject.
Only respond to unrelated communication and be friendly enough there.

glueandstick · 19/01/2016 10:57

She's always been like it but I haven't been in the firing line before and for so long. You could just shake off the odd advance or help out now and again. But it feels a bit like I'm being targeted as I have helped in the past.

I'm not sure I would really mourn the loss of the 'friendship'

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Floggingmolly · 19/01/2016 10:57

She's not a friend. Stop answering the door / phone to her; and she'll find someone else to suck the life out of.

pictish · 19/01/2016 11:00

If that's the case, just let her go. Phase her out. Once the baby arrives just be busy with all that. Don't let her steamroller you with her bullshit. This is her trip and she has no business plonking it in your lap. She is behaving pretty badly, so don't feel guilty.

BelindaBagwash · 19/01/2016 11:04

I would have to tell that I just wasn't interested in her church things and could she please stop mentioning them. People know where churches are and can go to them if they want. They don't need others ramming it down their throat.

I am a church member but never force invite people to things as I know it makes most people uncomfortable

MetalMidget · 19/01/2016 11:06

Invest in a selection of highly offensive metal band t-shirts. I particularly recommend Cradle of Filth, Cannibal Corpse and Deicide. Wear them whenever you see her, and whenever you end up at one of her church events. Discuss loudly how you think that 'Christians to the Lions' is your favourite Behemoth song and probably your favourite example of blackened-death metal.

The invites will soon dry up! :D

glueandstick · 19/01/2016 11:07

I'm so thankful fur other people's views on this. There is a very blurry hormonal line that I'm well aware I have been stamping all over at times to the point that I ask for a lot of second opinions (I was fairly sure that murder was acceptable for a minor comment the other day).

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glueandstick · 19/01/2016 11:09

I'm fairly sure the death metal would be seen as a challenge to show me the 'right' way. It could be a match to a fuse situation and efforts doubled. Too terrifying.

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HeavyFrost · 19/01/2016 11:11

The direct route is best. The friendship isn't terribly important to you, so you have nothing to lose in saying 'I'm completely uninterested in religion, and I will not be attending any of your church events or supporting their fundraising with money, time or donations. Please don't bring it up again.'

As a previous poster said, I bet she's a wonderful fundraiser, but she's essentially your own personal God-chugger, waving her clipboard at you and trying to stop you walking your bump blamelessly down the street every time you put your nose outside the door.

Though I do quite like also the 'I can't attend church as it would contravene my blood contract with Satan' approach.

glueandstick · 19/01/2016 11:16

I shall be saving the blood contract for when the big guns are required.

Have realised what it is. It's the contestant 'I'm doing x and it is going to be amazing' and 'you should come and' try my xyz as it is just the best and everyone thinks so' It's the constant bloody I'm so bloody amazing and being so full of herself.

I've tried being nice and supportive but now, just this actual minute I have given up. Taadaaaaaaa.

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WonderingAspie · 19/01/2016 11:17

YANBU. I'm a staunch atheist, no way in hell would I allow someone to bang on about church this much. I have a religious friend, she has genuinely question me a little bit on my lack of beliefs and shown genuine surprise when I said I don't pray (well no, I don't believe in the sky fairy so why would I pray) and that was it, it doesn't get mentioned. This is what friends do.

I'm charitable but I am very choosey about which causes I support and donate to, I would refuse even more when pressured into it like you are being.

Phase her out, ignore her messages. You may have to end up being blunt though as she clearly has thick skin!

WonderingAspie · 19/01/2016 11:18

Sounds like it is less about actual charity and more about her appearing to be oh so selfless and amazing to everyone else. I thought people who are big on charity don't speak about it much.

TheNoodlesIncident · 19/01/2016 11:37

She's a vulture Shock It's clear she doesn't actually care about you, you're just a source to her. You'd be well rid.

If you were down to your last penny she'd try to wrangle it from your tired grasp to give to "the poor".

Quornmakesmefart · 19/01/2016 11:39

She sounds way too much like hard work and I suspect won't give up easily. Therefore I wouldn't waste any more time on her and would just ignore her messages. She will eventually take the hint ...

Dontunderstand01 · 19/01/2016 12:17

It doesn't sound like she cares about you, she has realised you have a career/background in an industry that may be useful to her and is trying to use you.

The religious thing is really offensive- politely offering an invite to a church do once or twice is nice and friendly. Repeatedly doing so after you have said no is horrible. I am an atheist and do my best to be polite and respect other people's beliefs but I think you are now within your rights to be quite forceful about it. I.e. tell her to fuck off. Grin

LittleBeautyBelle · 19/01/2016 12:53

OP, church is important to me but to try to pressure you like this is clearly wrong. She sounds awful as if she's putting on a show of what a good person she thinks she is. More like a hypocrite. She's volunteering you for all these things--that's wrong. She's a controlling personality using the excuse of religion to manipulate you with her goal being to elevate herself with your help, willing or not.

Don't let her make you feel guilty. That's what she's using to get you to do what she wants. You help others in your own way and it's not up to her to decide for you, to volunteer you for her, I suspect self-serving, projects.

Unfortunately, I think she's a user and for your own peace of mind, you should distance yourself from her. Enjoy the rest of your pregnancy. Your priority for the next long while is your baby's wellbeing and your wellbeing, not this woman's constant projects, free stock and traing her on ebay. Say no and then ignore her.

Grapejuicerocks · 19/01/2016 13:04

Just be honest and say that while you admire her views, you don't support them so can she knock it off with trying to get you involved as it's sort of having the opposite affect and it's actually affecting the way you feel about her.

Then it's up to her. Just say no to all requests. Sorry, remember we need all the money we can get ourselves at the moment. Over an over again

Greyponcho · 19/01/2016 13:24

She's no friend to you. She clearly doesn't give a shit.
She just wants to use you to give stuff so that she looks good to her fellow church goers - a "I'm holier than thou because I've brought more for the jumble sale".
Have a relative who does this stole gifts given to my Alzheimer's grandmother to flog at 'church events'

Get your own back by telling her you've joined a MLM and you're looking to recruit (anyone who doesn't run a mile is crackers, so if she persists, then go the death metal route) Wink

LemonBreeland · 19/01/2016 13:28

I think you need to either pull back as others have said, or sit her down and say please stop inviting me to church things, I am not interested in them at all and will never come along.

EnriqueTheRingBearingLizard · 19/01/2016 14:18

It sounds to me as though she's a long standing acquaintance more than a friend. She certainly doesn't seem to be particularly interested in your welfare at all. While it's commendable to be drumming up support for a foodbank, asking a heavily pregnant woman to donate, drive 90 minutes, then help with the cooking and clearing up before driving another 90 minutes, is pretty thoughtless.

In my eyes the most sincere charity takes the form of helping quietly and within one's means, so that whether it's goods, time or money, it's done very willingly and happily and not through coercion. When I say quietly I mean things like not constantly flagging it up on Facebook, just getting on with it.

Perhaps have a rethink about the kinds of charities you'd like to support and when asked again make it quite clear that you've told her many times you aren't interested in the Church or its events and that you've already accounted for your charity budget.

You also say that you don't do very much to keep this relationship going and that you wouldn't be sorry if it cooled. What do you actually have in common, enjoying doing together, do outside of being hassled over Church events that you're not interested in? You don't need to lose it with her, you just need to be less polite and more direct and consider whether this is actually a friendship at all.

Sunnybitch · 19/01/2016 15:03

glueandstick Next time she phones telling you to donate your time and all your stuff for free just breath then let allllll the pregnancy hormones take over and go batshit bonkers on her butt! Tell her your growing a human being so as far as your concerned you've done your bit for mankind and with all due respect...fuck off! it's a pregnant womans right to go psycho every now and then Grin

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