To think that people who have "protein powders" to be healthy are sadly misguided?

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I've just seen a 'Lean in 15' recipe on FB that has 'protein powder' as one of the ingredients. I winced! It sounds disgusting.

I read of personal trainers advising people who train to drink a 'protein powder' drink afterward to be healthy. Famous dieticians advocating the use of these powders in recipes as part of 'eating clean'.

But look at the ingredients:

Aspartame, sucralose, maltodextrin, soy lecithin, xanthan gum, flavourings.

How on earth can these powders be advocated as a 'clean' or 'healthy' way of living?

Mum on the run I find your post sexist and insulting. I have won national titles in my sport ( I am also a mum) I take no supplements or protein drinks. I have researched and read about nutrition extensively and i think much of what is promoted by the fitness industry is as bad as the diet industry.i drink full fat milk after running, eat nuts etc. Cheaper and safer, there isn't much money to be made a out of promoting a pint of milk from the corner ship.

Should also add, eating more protein (in combination with resistance exercise) is great for weightloss as it minimises lean muscle mass loss and maximises actual fat loss - so your resulting new body will look more "toned".

""It is what mankind did for about 200,000 years and we could chase animals, climb trees, fight - we had no protein supplements in those days."
Mind you, we were dead by 30"

Not from indigestion. Early humans died early because they got eaten or caught an infection, for example.

I hate personal trainers. Ego-centric men who think they know everything about the body and nutrition. It's an obsession to 'look good' and most of them look ridiculous with their huge tattooed muscles.

those egocentric men are hilarious though

one kept pressing me to share my motivation/goals - did I want to add lean bulk? become stronger? run faster? and then he shared that he was driven purely by vanity and it was hard not to laugh, he was so ridiculously misshapen that he looked like a bat in a vest from behind

That made me laugh FlowersAndShit One of the dads at school is a PT and despite him being surrounded by other parents who are hugely successful in their fields he walks around as if he's the king of fucking everything

I met a personal trainer, he was showing off about what a great runner he was and how his diet gave him endurance and all his squats gave him great leg strength. His running times were very poor, plenty of 60 and 70 year old runners beating him by a long stretch ( he was in his 30s)The personal trainer look isn't attractive to me at all.

I hate personal trainers. Ego-centric men

generalisation much?

and if I hear the term 'starvation mode' one more time I will scream.

"generalisation much?"

If you have to use a doltish expression, would you at least take care to do it correctly? That should have been "Generalise much?". As in, "You Generalise much?". Generalization is a noun and can be counted/plural so would be many, not much.

That's my cue to hide this thread

What's the betting those with a serious misunderstanding of basic nutrition and small minded view of PTs are overweight?

Judging from comments from male friends who weight lift and men at the gym I think a lot of the popularity of protein powders come from the misinformation that there is a certain small window of which to shovel protein down your neck for it to be effective. I did read somewhere recently this window is much larger than previously cited.

I use protein powders very occassionally as recovery. Usually the days I've done two types of exercise, like weights in the morning and a run later. I certainly know cooking something would be best but it's handy when I'm lacking in time. Once every few weeks doesn't do any harm in my eyes and I'm sure there's probably far more harmful ingredients in the packet of wotsit and cake bars I ate last night

mudandmayhem hey ho

Oh my God, there might be overweight people commenting on this thread! The horror!

I've commented one pt who is a knob The others are probably very nice indeed
I am quite fit and not obese. Am I ok to still contribute to the thread?

Thanks Cote for your helpful input...It's actually a figure of speech.

Still an idiotic statement about PT's!

I agree OP. Quite often the folk glugging them haven't done enough exercise to require the protein shake.

Well this is certainly stimulating a debate! :o stopfaffing thanks for the link, will take a look.

I am not fat but nor do I work out. I'm reasonably fit and pretty strong and I eat what I just call normal healthy food, not processed junk and I wouldn';t eat a protein bar or drink but I don't castigate those who do - better than eating a donut. No point in our all falling out over this - if we are keen to eat well we are all on the same side.

Plenty of personal trainers eschew protein powders and bars and go for the clean eating way which is how man kind has always been until we chose to ruin our health. Many of our ancestors lived long lives. In fact eating clean and less is one of the ways to repair the body and let it rest and heal. All the science (never mild old wisdom) points to that although teh odd protein bar is not going to set you back if you really too lazy to make a few eggs.

You are welcome, Whenwill. I am here for you whenever you need help with grammar.

I was using one of the scary machines in the weights room yesterday and totally distracted by the muscle mass some of the blokes have built up, and yes pondering what they had consumed to bulk up. It's excessive and can't be doing them any good. They must have poor cardio and no flexibility? I'll happily lift weights but I still need to run and practice yoga. It's not true fitness just focusing on one regime imo.

"It's not true fitness just focusing on one regime imo."

^ This. I tried to show one such guy how to do a headstand and he was crumbling like made of paper. Don't care how much weight he pumps - he did not have enough strength in upper arms and shoulders to support his body.

And if "some people" believe that manufacturers spike protein powder with steroids then I'd suggest they'd do better to report it to the FSA than tell randomers on t'internet

who said that?

What are the rules as to whom is allowed to contribute to the thread?

I'm not a fan of there. It's basically processed foods - aren't we supposed to avoid this????

Also - what about the studies showing that high protein diets accelerates cancer cells growth.

Before some intellect comes on and says "everything seems to give you cancer". There doesn't seem to be any links between a healthy natural unprocessed diet and adverse health risks.