To think that people who have "protein powders" to be healthy are sadly misguided?

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I've just seen a 'Lean in 15' recipe on FB that has 'protein powder' as one of the ingredients. I winced! It sounds disgusting.

I read of personal trainers advising people who train to drink a 'protein powder' drink afterward to be healthy. Famous dieticians advocating the use of these powders in recipes as part of 'eating clean'.

But look at the ingredients:

Aspartame, sucralose, maltodextrin, soy lecithin, xanthan gum, flavourings.

How on earth can these powders be advocated as a 'clean' or 'healthy' way of living?

I'm training hard at the moment and have 2-3 protein shakes a week. Eggs are a good source but you are advised against eating too many of them in case you create an intolerance to them.

And forgive me if I don't take health advice from the Daily Mail

I see powders as a convenience food for serious trainers. Fair enough. But they are being over hyped.

(Eating crunchy food can counter depression.

Thought I would throw that in!

It was the first bit of dietary news in decades that really took me aback!
I await its discovery by the daily mail.)

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""I see powders as a convenience food for serious trainers. Fair enough. But they are being over hyped. ""

Everyone wants to sell their own Products/Ways of training.

I don't agree with what Joe Wicks advocates, for the majority of people, it's a recipe for Knee/Tendon/Ankle/Muscle injuries.

Unless you're vegan it's not hard to get decent protein in you (and then you're probably ok once you know what you're doing) . Scrambled egg, nuts, cottage cheese etc, all protein-y.

DamsonInDistress "There's nothing worse in a protein shake than in any other pre made food. Have a look at a flavoured yoghurt pot for instance, or a bought cheesecake, or any one of the thousands of products on the supermarket shelves... your OP betrays the quite large misunderstanding for all to see."

I am very educated thank you and agree that flavoured yoghurt pots and the like are equally junk-like. However, flavoured yoghurts are not recommended by these dieticians and trainers, in the way these protein powders are, and are certainly not sold as 'clean' or 'healthy' like these powders.

Even if your vegan its easy to get protein if you know what your doing.

Miso soup with buckwheat noodles , spring onions, shiitake muschrooms, seaweed, chilli, seasme seeds for my mid morning meal in a bit. Packed with protein.

'Eggs are a good source but you are advised against eating too many of them in case you create an intolerance to them.'**
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Really? Who advises this? The advice used to be to not eat too many eggs because of the cholesterol but this was debunked. Eggs are healthy sources of protein and other nutrients.

I despair with paleo/clean eating/protein shakes etc. Just exercise and eat real food, it's not that hard.

Who advises this? The cynic in me says the people selling the shakes!

However, flavoured yoghurts are not recommended by these dieticians and trainers,

Lots of trainers and dietician see commend low fat yoghurts that are filled with crap.

The lean in 15 guy is part of the fitness industry that believes we should eat a large amount of protein. So protein shakes fit with that. He is also part of the fitness industry that believe weight lifting is the best way to lose fat and tone up.

So protein shakes fit with that. Line of advice. You can get ones not full of junk.

If you disagree with this sort of thing you don't take their advice.

Personally I work in the fitness industry and don't have protein shakes. I don't feel any better for it.

It's no different that slimming world advocating massive amounts of dried pasta and loads of carbs. That doesn't suit me, so I don't sign up for it.

Clean eating means nothing and people have their own interpretation of it.

I have a 'diet' protein powder (doesn't contain many of the ingredients in OP) each morning with almond milk, a nut butter and frozen fruit. It's fast, I can drink it at my desk and keeps me full until I finish work at 1. I've also lost 8lbs since 1st Jan. Much better than bread or cereal for me.

you can't really have eggs multiple times a day though, I can't anyway, if you are not a huge fan of meat then it's hard to beat a protein bar or shake

I became addicted to quest bars after losing muscle mass with a thyroid problem, sometimes people want/need to gain weight but for that weight to be made of as much lean stuff as possible and protein is great for that. Some of us are really lazy and disorganized and would live on polos all day if it wasn't for this wonderful stuff.

Protein Powder, in a Shake , is portable and needs no cooking.

I had to go through a phase of wearing my trainies and gym leggings and just carrying my top, to fit in a workout. The person who I was caring for has died, so my life isn't as involved.

It was the only way I could fit my daily workout in and being Vegan, a Shake was an easy meal replacement and fitted in nutritionally.

These things are useful, they slot in easily.

My Gym was in the middle of where my work was, the person who I looked after and my DDs, who I helped with Babysitting.

I, like others, know my lifestyle and can judge whether I need a PP or if it's easier to carry food etc. This was used Post Weight Training.

mmmmmm filthy quest bar, I want you inside me:

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INGREDIENTS: Protein Blend (Milk Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Isolate), Soluble Corn Fiber (Prebiotic Fiber), Almonds, Water, Erythritol, Unsweetened Chocolate, Natural Flavors, Palm Oil, Cocoa Butter, Sea Salt, Calcium Carbonate, Sucralose, Cinnamon, Baking Soda, Steviol Glycosides (Stevia), Cellulose Gum, Xanthan Gum.

I think a lot of people who have bought Joe's book are going to end up bigger as the recipes are designed to go with HIIT training. If you are doing that then I can't see you need the masses of protein he advocates!

A lot of teenage boys are using protein shakes to bulk up for sports now. I think that's very worrying as they should be able to get all the protein they need from a healthy diet. I also believe that as the protein shake industry isn't moderated they can put all sorts of rubbish in them. Some people believe that unscrupulous manufacturers add steroids to the powders...

Protein powders and high protein diets are causing more and more kidney stones that need to be operated on. The protein doesn't break down to urine properly and it's causing a lot of problems.

How come they sell so much if it's no good how much chicken would you have to eat to one shake?

Yes pirate this is an issue in my sons group: the rugby players imho are going too far at too young an age : bulk is all!

I agree. Be natural and you cannot go far wrong. I encourage my teenage boys to eat steak not take fake powders. My pretty fit daughter sometimes has this kind of stuff and says it's because it's easier but it is not hard to boil 20 eggs and take 2 or 3 into work every day. That is much better for you than all these awful chemicals.

I also have a client who sells them and it is a bit like popcorn mark ups in a cinema - huge profit. Good market if you can get into it at the right time.

Audrey : The companies are not altruistic. They will be getting industry people to promote their goods. They create the market.

pirate there is something going on at the moment which means it will be. Supplement shops are being visited by trading standards and told that protein shakes, pre workouts etc and told they have to move them into 'the food section'.

This means a difference in labelling is required and some products have been removed from shelves.

Happened to a big store in Wales two weeks ago. I think it's a good thing

I agree that generally, most people don't need the extra protein supplements of a protein shake. Obviously if you're vegan / an extreme weightlifter etc then yes, but personally I think they're too over processed to want myself

Re "clean eating" that's exactly what I do - it's not faddy, it just literally means eating food that's unprocessed as possible. No extreme rules, just a general guidance. And it works for me! Along with resistance training, HIIT and yoga