To think a 84cm / 34 inch waist is not "slim"

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I'm very open to being told IABU, in fact I'd be quite relieved to be told I have a warped view. Right now though I don't think a 34 inch waist is slim. To me slim is no larger than a size 10 so around a 27 inch waist max.

Unless you are a much taller than the average woman (average being 5' 4"?) I think a healthy (in the general sense of the word) waist is less than 30 inches.

However I have a small frame and have felt overweight whenever I've needed to wear size 12 bottoms (and that's still not over a 30 inch waist).

The irony is that I still think I'm at high risk of developing diabetes because my father has it and whilst not overweight I have a diet quite high in sugar.

Genuinely interested in people's views on this and whether my own view is out of kilter with the norm.

At the risk of pointing out the obvious surely the most important thing is health?

I had this conversation with my doctor yesterday. He checked my food logs and my fit bit activity.

Whilst I would like to lose a few pounds to get my abs back, he pointed out that the greater influence on my overall health is what I eat and my exercise. According to my doctors they are the most important things for fending off diabetes and other obesity related illnesses.

Having pcos makes diabetes more likely, so I am just going to keep on doing what I am doing and worry less about the fat.

more 'pseudo science'
www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/fulltext/S1550-4131(13)00198-8

you think Im making up things about visceral fat??

Not necessarily making them up but risk assessing them differently to me, while presenting as fact. That is psuedo science.

but risk assessing them differently to me, while presenting as fact

where did I do that?

As someone with a 32in waist I guess I would qualify as "fat" in this conversation; however I am a size 10/12, 5"6 and run 4K 4 times a week...am I overweight or a straight up/straight down body shape...?

In all your posts, I think if a person is healthy and has body fat in the normal range then they should relax and enjoy their life. You think that they should be aiming for mega health and stressing about different types of body fat because they aren't 'ripped'.

I doubt that stressing about that type of thing is bad for you and I could find a study that proved it. Life isn't a competition its about being chilled, healthy and happy.

Good for you

If that was aimed at me tobysmum no need for the "face" just trying to point out (and dare I say add weight to certain people's arguments....) that being under 30in waist/ridiculous body fat%/whatever is meaningless as long as you're happy and healthy in the skin you're in.

No it wasn't it was correcting the nonsense I'd written in my previous post

think we're on the same page here

Couldn't agree more other than that I am thinner but considerably less fit

You think that they should be aiming for mega health and stressing about different types of body fat because they aren't 'ripped'

nope, no where have I said that, I just pointed out that there are significant health risks associated with visceral fat.

Of course we are all free to ignore that and merrily carry on with our ever swelling pot bellies leaching toxins....if thats what makes us chilled and happy

There are ways of putting points across. If you told me I should take more exercise OK you have a point but I am lazy and choose not to it was the 'that's hardly ripped' comment to someone who does exercise and is basically doing the right thing that immediately made me . Followed by the big words 'scientific' stuff. But in the end we all make our own decisions without reaching the same conclusions.

exercise or dont exercise Tobysmum, it makes no difference whatsoever to me
I'm just discussing 'belly fat' and the cons thereof
getting the impression that people generally dont understand the mechanisms involved with the health risks?

I'm terrified now. I thought I was doing so well with my weightloss but unfortunately waist is 32" despite slim thighs, hips. I suppose I'm the notorious apple shape. How on earth do I shift the fat around my middle, and avoid diabetes and all the other health problems? I eat healthily, I exercise, but whatever I do, my body from hips downwards is the only area that it seems to affect

Well the cat has certainly enjoyed me fiddling with a tape measurer. :)

According to the "half way" measurement that Moln proposed way back (orange & red lines), I should measure my waist two inches BELOW my bellybutton. Which happens to be 34". As opposed to my natural waist, which is 3.5 inches ABOVE my bellybutton, 29".

Did I mention that I have a really long waist & short legs?

I'm 5"6, weigh 12st 4lbs and am a 14/16 with a small waist, cat measure as no tape. I am 32gg/h chested and have big ass and thighs.
My mate is 5"4 12 stone and a size 12/14.

Its all bullshit.
Nobody ever puts me at the size i am. I m told i am lying and that i must be a 12 at the most. meh. I like my shape. Couldn't care less what other people think.

And a size 10 is bloody slim. I'd go so far as to say, i think it's possible that some on this thread are skewed by celeb culture of what is the "norm"

I don't get this at all. I am 5'5", 8st and a size 6-8. Lower end of healthy BMI. People describe me as tiny.

I have a 30" (medical) waist. Even at 7st10lbs it is never less than 28". And then I'd under for BMI.

I do have a pretty straight up and down figure, but still...

double my doctors told me not to worry about it.

As long as I am eating healthy and exercising.

He said not eating well and not exercising is worse than some tummy fat for getting diabetes.

There is a meme going round the fitness community at the moment that says

'You can tell the difference between someone who works out and someone who eats right and workouts'

Essentially saying if you work out but don't eat right it shows.

I have challenged it many times on social media. These people would look at me and tell me my diet needs improving. It doesn't.

They can't tell I have pcos by looking at me. It's a ridiculous notion and doesn't help anyone.

My doctor always needs reminding i have pcos (for some reason it's not on my records despite having a hospital diagnosis) and so treats me exactly the same as anyone else - no support, no advice, I have to do my own research - and are very dismissive. Your doctor sounds very engaged Katenka I'm quite

I am blown away by the idea that people's belly buttons are in different places.

Yes, me too! I had simply never ever noticed. Next time I go to the beach, I'm gonna have a field day noting relative locations of belly buttons!

My belly button is in the "wrong" place too. Maybe it does have an influence on waist size!

MerryMarigold - that is entirely about shape. I'm two inches taller than you, two and a bit stone heavier (BMI is 23) but my waist is 26. I carry any extra weight on my thighs and bum.

I'm lucky, that's all.

I think I remember measuring and having a 22" waist at 8 stone, which I haven't weighed since I was a child. I remember because of a conversation with my Grandmother about her waist being 19" as a young woman.

Exercise helps to upregulate glut 4 receptors,these are involved with insulin sensitivity and the removal of glucose from the blood stream

Anyone who wants to accuse me of pseudo science fuck off and google it yourself