Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not get schools issue with dyed hair?

1003 replies

fitforflighting · 06/01/2016 13:29

I suspect I may get flamed for this but I genuinely do not get it.
They have a rule against earrings including sleepers. That I get especially with younger children or in sports were children can end up getting them at worst ripped out.

I can kind of even get extreme haircuts with big shaved stars or strange styles that look unprofessional and might not be allowed by adults in a professional work place.

But this week and last term several of senior age children who had dyed hair brown/red/dark purple etc were sent home from school to re dye or put in isolation by teachers with errr brown/red/purple dyed hair! One of the children's teacher has bright purple hair. It does not make her any less of a English teacher or lesson her professionalism in school I don't reckon so what is the problem for teens?

OP posts:
LordBrightside · 06/01/2016 23:39

Throughout the UK, 16 years olds can leave home, work, pay tax, and have children. In Scotland they can vote.

But you don't think the can choose what to wear while sitting in a classroom, learning?

CultureSucksDownWords · 06/01/2016 23:40

They'd need parental permission to marry under 18, Brightside. They can have sex legally, and have children. They can also leave home. Doesn't make them legally an adult.

They also don't have to be in school, they can choose to go to college or work. Although, they might find that many workplaces have a uniform or dress code, so I guess that's probably too oppressive an environment for them which month restrict their employment choices.

CultureSucksDownWords · 06/01/2016 23:41

*might not month

pieceofpurplesky · 06/01/2016 23:42

Gruntled
Let me run this scenario by you. The school has a rule. A child breaks that rule but still goes around classes continuing to break that rule. Teenagers do not just sit and not comment. They will tell
You how unfair it is that X is getting away with y. Lesson disrupted. Yes it may not impact on the individual's learning - just on all the others that follow the rules and get fed up of time being Wasted in kids with pink hair who can't follow them!
And from 20 years at the chalk face I know it makes a difference. In attitude etc.
PP who reposted whole message - where are they at school - I know Of no school )in the four areas I have taught in different councils)!that have no'uniform. Just a couple of private schools

LordBrightside · 06/01/2016 23:43

"They'd need parental permission to marry under 18, Brightside. "

Not in the more progressive parts of the U.K., like Scotland, where 16 year olds can also vote.

Employers don't tend to tell you what colours you can dye your hair.

CultureSucksDownWords · 06/01/2016 23:44

"I won't tolerate detention"

Do you think that your son's school has any right at all to apply sanctions to him if he disrupts his own or others learning? If you do, what sanctions do you think are appropriate? Does your school have a home/school agreement document, and did you sign it?

LordBrightside · 06/01/2016 23:45

pieceofpurplesky, the solution there is not to have pointless rules.

pieceofpurplesky · 06/01/2016 23:46

Brightside you won't tolerate detention.
What do you mean by 'a bit off going to school' do you mean he is a pain in the arse at school and you back him up as he can do no wrong?
How old are you?

longtimelurker101 · 06/01/2016 23:47

"no, I won't tolerate detention."

Ah so tell you what when your kid gets beaten up in the playground, which if they are like their parent they will do for having loony opinions, I'll not put the kids who did it into isolation or detention, cause their parents think its a silly rule that you can't kick the crap out of people who are annoying.

Also, when you sign up to a school, you sign a contract agreeing to follow the rules, if you persitantly break them or encourage your child to, good luck staying in a school.

crumpet · 06/01/2016 23:47

I'd rather my dc school's staff did not waste time having to sit in judgment/endless challenges as to whether one shade of auburn was acceptable but a louder shade too extreme etc. much easier to keep the rules simple, easy to understand and everyone knows where they stand. Let's everyone get on with the business in hand - education.

LordBrightside · 06/01/2016 23:47

The school does not have a "right" to apply sanctions, no, at least now without my consent. Reasonable sanctions which are lawful and constructive rather than punitive I'd be ok with.

crumpet · 06/01/2016 23:47

Damn. That apostrophe crept in.

LordBrightside · 06/01/2016 23:49

"Brightside you won't tolerate detention.
What do you mean by 'a bit off going to school' do you mean he is a pain in the arse at school and you back him up as he can do no wrong?
How old are you?"

WTF. I mean he's 2 and a half. I'm 36. Why?

echt · 06/01/2016 23:50

People don't get detention at work or university.

But they can be sacked from the former. And for not following the rules of their employer.

As for "pointless rules", there are always rules that some people see as pointless. The trick is to fall in, try to change or, or fuck off.

longtimelurker101 · 06/01/2016 23:50

You gave your consent when you signed the agreements when they enter? You can't change your mind later, the school has to work for everyone not be changed everytime something minor doesn't suit one person.

crumpet · 06/01/2016 23:50

The school has my backing to rein my dd in if she chooses to be a distraction by flaunting her individualism. The school is not the place for her to do that.

LordBrightside · 06/01/2016 23:51

"Ah so tell you what when your kid gets beaten up in the playground, which if they are like their parent they will do for having loony opinions, I'll not put the kids who did it into isolation or detention, cause their parents think its a silly rule that you can't kick the crap out of people who are annoying. "

Violence and bullying is entirely different from having the wrong colour of hair. It is lawful for schools to act against such behaviour, but not to discriminate against a child for having dyed hair of any colour.

pieceofpurplesky · 06/01/2016 23:51

So you mean he is too young to go to
School.
So why are you getting involved in something that you will
Probably have changed you mind about when he is at high school.
I asked your age because you sound like a wanna be rebel - lets wind everyone up by being that parent

echt · 06/01/2016 23:51

That should be "try to change it".

LordBrightside · 06/01/2016 23:52

"You gave your consent when you signed the agreements when they enter? You can't change your mind later,"

I can, if the rules are not lawful.

crumpet · 06/01/2016 23:53

No you don't get detention at work. It's called the sack if you don't abide by the workplace rules to the necessary extent.

CultureSucksDownWords · 06/01/2016 23:54

Brightside, you're very confident about what is legal in schools when you haven't yet had any contact with schools as a parent yourself. Unless you're a teacher of course?

pieceofpurplesky · 06/01/2016 23:54

Brightside I suggest you homeschool.

LordBrightside · 06/01/2016 23:55

"No you don't get detention at work. It's called the sack if you don't abide by the workplace rules to the necessary extent."

You don't get the sack for dying your hair.

GruntledOne · 06/01/2016 23:56

pieceofpurple: there is a very, very simple way round the problem of the child with pink tips being seen to break a rule by keeping her pink tips and getting away with it. And that is not to have such a stupid rule in the first place.

Your 20 years is really nothing compared with the cumulative centuries of experience of teachers who can tell you that what makes the difference is good teaching, and who loathe having to waste time on uniform issues. Nor does it answer the point about schools in Germany who manage fine without uniform rules.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.
Swipe left for the next trending thread