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To think this could be a fake note

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makingitthroughok · 30/12/2015 15:24

Sorry dont know where to put this. I have attached a photo. There's another 2 like this as well. The paper feels slightly funny (I think) If you hold them up to the light the hologram is shown but you can see it when it is not held up to the light as well. The hologram does show a 10 but not a picture when you tilt it. It smells a bit like bleach as well. £30 pound is a lot to loose if i went to tesco what are my chances of them spotting it (if it is a fake) and if they are spotted what would happen would the police be called. Thank you

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makingitthroughok · 30/12/2015 18:21

no i didnt. Aparently the paper felt slighlty funny and it was de-faced

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catgirl1976 · 30/12/2015 18:47

I'd try them in a self service machine at Sainsburys or similar.

If its fake the machine will probably pick that up and reject it, but as it's a machine, no embassament or issues for you. You'll know and can then take them to a bank and use a "real" note to pay for your shopping.

if its genuine the machine will accept it and you wont have them anymore

squicketysquack · 30/12/2015 18:52

Real notes are made of cotton and won't tear easily. Fakes are usually paper and tear much more easily

thismumismad · 30/12/2015 19:25

Ok. Some people have already said some of these. Bank notes are made of cotton waste not paper and have a very strong smell when they are brand new along with a very crisp feeling. Bank of England writing across the top is raised ink so run your fingers along it. It is possible to catch your mail across the metal strip on the Charles Darwin side. The swirls under The Queen is micro printing saying '10 ten'. All printing should be clear and not smudged. The hologram says 10 or a picture of Britannia, with lots of the number 10 around the egde.
I hope this helps.

jevoudrais · 30/12/2015 20:23

If it's fake any good shop will call the police. You won't be allowed to just saunter off.

Ultra violet light should reveal a hologram if you have an appropriate pen. Most shops will have money pens and will test if it feels slightly dodgy. I worked in retail when a student and you get very good at spotting fakes as soon as you touch them.

Pipbin · 30/12/2015 20:25

That should be on Britain's dumbest criminals lol.

Mumsnet's dumbest comment, lol.

jevoudrais · 30/12/2015 20:26

If you take a fake note to a Tesco and a CA falls for it they can be disciplined for not noticing. Tills should be checked before and after an individual works on them. For that reason I think it would be very unfair to potentially screw over an individual.

OH works for Tesco and says people have been sacked for taking fakes (albeit not my him in his store).

munkisocks · 30/12/2015 20:28

If you take it to the bank they will keep it and not refund you. Can you tear it slightly along to the top of the note to see if the metallic thread is there?

LalaLyra · 30/12/2015 20:29

If the shop thought it was fake they shouldn't have given it back to you.

I had a note once that Asda thought was fake. They kept it and called the police. Once it was found to be genuine I got it back. If it had been fake I wouldn't have got it back.

Gracey79 · 30/12/2015 20:33

I second feeling for raised writing at the top of the note. I worked in a bank for a long time and this was usually the one thing they can't replicate

CalmYoBadSelf · 30/12/2015 20:36

Some years ago we got £200 out of the Halifax to take on holiday, went to spend some in a cafe in holiday town who told us one note was fake so we asked them to check the others too. They did and £30 of the £200 we got was dodgy.

I rang the Halifax (without mentioning my name ) and asked them what to do, they told us to bring it in to a branch, they would take it in and report it to Police but would not replace it despite us having the transaction receipt as we couldn't prove they were the same notes.

We could not afford to lose that money back then. A family member had a business that banked at the same branch of the Halifax who gave us the notes so she banked that £30 in with her takings to see if they would pick them up, they didn't and she replaced the money to us

I was shocked that the bank seemed to think everyone was responsible for the fakes except them

munkisocks · 30/12/2015 20:53

Calm, I worked for halifax and having the receipt does not prove the notes in your hand came out of the machine. The business takings go in a bag which isn't checked by the branch employees. It goes straight to their main offices.

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makingitthroughok · 30/12/2015 20:54

2 of the notes have gone now luckily. BUt its not like when someone shop lifts (or is it) they cant hold someone at the shop if they have alot of fake money. If its taken of them (by the shop) and found to be fake can the police track who gave it to the shop or not. Sorry for all the questions, just quite curoius i dont understand how people can get away with it.

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OverScentedFanjo · 30/12/2015 21:06

Lots of £1 coins are fake.

They used to be really bad fakes and the gold would scratch off, but now I think they are a bit better.

jevoudrais · 30/12/2015 21:15

They can and will ring the police, they will have you on CCTV even if they don't make you stay. Security guards in OH's shop have made people wait whilst calling police over fake notes. He says store staff should not physically detain even for theft but security guards can and he imagines the same goes for fake notes. This doesn't mean store staff don't detain, they still do a lot of the time.

OH himself instructs staff to confiscate note and customer details have been passed to police upon police request, including CCTV.

If you give a fake note it should not be returned to you. If you wave one in someone's face, you haven't given it to them technically. That's about the only get out I can think of.

snowpo · 30/12/2015 22:08

Police will not be interested in one fake note unless you are daft enough to say 'oh yes I thought it was fake'. They have no way of proving you knew or thought it was fake. The store will just retain the note and police come and collect it.

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makingitthroughok · 30/12/2015 22:21

They didnt retain it they said we are not saying we think its fake we are just not accepting it. gave it back to me

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Longdistance · 30/12/2015 22:21

That looks fine to me, and I work in a building society and handles loads of cash daily. Although, I'd have to have it in my hand to be sure for the feel of it.

jevoudrais · 31/12/2015 09:08

m.essexchronicle.co.uk/ll-buy-rounds-ndash-forged-pound-20-notes/story-28439903-detail/story.html

Well that guy got caught over one fake £20 in a Primark........

Police do care because, as in the case with that man, often it uncovers more.

snowpo · 31/12/2015 17:49

But the Braintree guy was already on bail for the same offence and had used multiple notes on the previous occasion so its completely different. The knowledge/intention had already been proved. Unless the store had further information about him they could not have detained him against his will.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 31/12/2015 17:55

I was shocked that the bank seemed to think everyone was responsible for the fakes except them

The problem is that if banks just swapped counterfeit for real notes, everyone would be printing off twenties on their home printer, and then taking them to the bank to get swapped...

myusernamewastaken · 31/12/2015 18:42

I work in a foreign currency exchange bureau and handle large amounts of sterling notes every day.....that note looks fine to me x

IAmNotAMindReader · 31/12/2015 18:55

The biggest give away for fake notes is usually the feel of them. Its very difficult to get the paper right apparently.
However that's usually whats first alerted me and further checks under UV have proven the theory correct so far.

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